Roy’s Real Estate: Round 14

Posted by Roy on 01/7/10 • Categorised as Trade Talk

Hi, welcome to RRE for round 14. Thankfully that damn split round is over, the pain of another bad DT “week” for destROY was dragged out 7 days longer than it needed too. If I had to describe what it looked like watching live scores update over the split round for me, it would be a train crashing in slow motion that lasted two weeks, every time you thought it had stopped and you begin to pick up the pieces, it gained a bit more momentum and hit something else! This week should be better, however there is still 1 more day of pain than usual.

Gun forward replacements:

With the likes of Brown, Stevie, possibly Chappy and Higgins etc, even the disciplined traders will be getting itchy to pull the trigger to avoid the much hated 0′s. I’m going to look at guys who would be possible replacements. Some may be good value, some may just be premium you have desired all year. With Chappy looking to return, I will also look at him as potential swaps for the likes of Brown or Stevie.

Buddy Franklin: We all know Buddy is a roller coaster and you need to take the good with the bad, but at the moment he looks to still be on the rise of a loopdideeloop. Over the past month he has averaged 105 and is looking good. Usually when he is playing well he is less likely for his brain snaps that cost him at the tribunal. Priced at $386,500 and a BE of 56, won’t be a sub 400K bargain for long.

Brent Harvey: This guys is an absolute champion and most importantly is capable of big 100′s. It is scary that he will cop the tag every week, but more often than not, it doesn’t bother him. Unfortunately, this week may not be pretty with the pink pig looking to bounce back from his Lenny Hayse ownage last week, and its at the Cattery to make matters worse. On another negative not, they play the saints one more time this year….. Priced at a bargain $353,200 and a BE of 58. Don’t underestimate the value of a dual position player when our players are dropping like flies.

Paul Chapman: Why not answer your problems by going straight to the top? Chappy is one of the best players in the competition and thankfully, he converts it into DT points as well. Of course it is scary that his hammy’s are weak, but the upside of this fine old Chap is too hard to ignore. Worst score of the year is 99, DPP, tough, fun to watch, better player than Ablett, need I say more? If he plays this week, he is priced at a bargain $462,800 and has a BE of 135 caused by the hopeless 99. Damn he is good.

Daniel Gia: Its seems for 1 extreme or the other other, Gia pops up in RRE every few weeks. A run of bad form caused a massive price drop but it seems he is once again hard to ignore for the price. Its a worry that he seems to go well with no Boyd or Higgins but the runs are on the board with 108 and 110 in the last 2. You don’t have much chance to ponder this one because his BE is a low 35. Priced at $339,200.

Just a bit of Ruckin’ luck is all I ask:

I have had a awful run of luck/ stupid moves in the ruck department to the point I have wasted 3 trades on the 1 ruck spot, for no significant gain to my team. With the Hille debarcle, combined with the new Special K going down, some unlucky buggers have two ruck trades to consider in this week. Special thoughts go out to the people who took 2 x Hille 0′s expecting him back this week.

Best of the best:

Aaron Sandilands: Back to his best with scores of 104 and 128, Sandi is by far the best answer for those who don’t have him. He plays 90% game time and basically starts the game on his 40 gimme hitouts. Back in form with a BE of 60 and a price of $390,200.

Patty Ryder: I traded in Ryder as soon as Hille went down and he is yet to disappoint me. I must admit, I like his role more when he has Hille as a sidekick, but he has managed two 90′s anyway. That leaves him and average of 104 for the past month, and quite unique. If you round out your rucks with Ryder to compliment Sandi, thats the best ruck combo possible. Priced at $408,400 and a BE of 118.

Second best of the best?:

Dean Cox: Averaging 85 for the last month is nothing to turn your nose up at, especially from a ruck. Coxy has the potential to score big hundreds which may come in very handy at finals time. Unfortunately Nic Nat has eaten away at Coxy’s scores although I’m not 100% sure how, as he doesn’t score himself. Priced at $359,700 and a BE of 91.

Shane Mumford: Big mummy is flourishing with the hack Seaby out. The last month he has averaged 94 and is only playing 65% game time. If he can get his fitness up, a 100 average is definitely on the cards. Prices at $347,700 and a BE of 110. May be a nice unique touch for your finals run.

Well that’s what I’ve got for the week, I’m sure there are many other points of interest to discuss today before we potentially pull a trade or two tonight. Good luck, destROY

1,012 Comments

toasted
July 1, 2010 • 6:03 am

I have been looking at Mummy for a while. Hmac is also on my radar. I am not so sure about Cox. Ryder seems to expensive
- the Mighty Boosh
  July 1, 2010 • 12:11 pm
  
  im tipping kurt tippett to bounce back on last years form, starting this week against the bombers
  - Superted
    July 1, 2010 • 12:20 pm
    
    If my memory is right Tippet kicked 7 against the bombers last year. But he is a spud and I don’t think he will get much better this year.
- Jack
  July 1, 2010 • 1:15 pm
  
  I wounder how hamish macintosh will go this week i got him for kreuzer, wounder how its going to work out
tomtom
July 1, 2010 • 6:30 am

Mummy might be a unique one to jump on next year after a big fitness focussed pre-season!
- thomasgreen1994
  July 1, 2010 • 5:09 pm
  
  Angus Graham is unique, seriouisly am I the only that has him?
  - Bluedreamin
    July 2, 2010 • 12:24 am
    
    Damn good call on Graham. He’s really snuck under the radar.
McScoundrel
July 1, 2010 • 6:47 am

Love how you sneaked in your opinion that Chappy’s a better player than Ablett with a minimum of fuss haha that should get them going!

Good idea about Mummy, definitely worth a look next year tomtom.

You’ve ripped the guts out of those forwards Roy…Franklin $386 and Gia $339! Pity I can’t trade unless another LTI / random team destroyer strikes or I’d be hitting up one of them for sure. I’m also waiting on volt to determine whether he’s necessary or not once he returns from injury.

I’m in the same carriage as you Roy…my team shows signs of life every now and then but ultimately gets dragged down by a few ass clowns that don’t get it together. I’ve been reduced to a sad sack death-riding guns I should have got or guns my opponent’s got. Prognosis negative.
orbs
July 1, 2010 • 8:40 am

Whilst ablett is a better player than chapman, chapman is actually more important to Geelongs finals success if you ask me. Ablett probably averages around 8 more touches a game but how many of those are cheap one twos?

Chapman gets much more free for link up marks and kicks into inside 50. Not to mention he usually kicks more goals than ablett.

Ablett is a freak but i think you would tell the difference more if chappy was out (e.g last week, they looked lost wihtout having chappy going forward, Guarantee if he was playing they would have scored a goal in the last)
- McScoundrel
  July 1, 2010 • 9:02 am
  
  Don’t see how any of this supports your argument that Ablett is a better player than Chapman.
  - orbs
    July 1, 2010 • 10:53 am
    
    Even though what i wrote might have sounded like I was saying Chapman is better, I was just saying what he gave to the team. I believe Ablett is the best in the business. No one can win a footy like him in tight spaces, or do something that no one else can. He is a freak!!
    
    But my argument was importance for Geelong. As amazing as Ablett is Geelong have a midfield of Bartel, Selwood, Corey, Ling with blokes like Kelly and Enright that can go in and match it with any other team.
    
    You take Ablett out that midfield and it still reads Bartel, Selwood, Corey. That is still in the top 3 midfields in the league if you ask me.
    
    What Ablett does not do is link up as much with marks around midfield and long penetrating kicks forward. Chapman also adds that hardness that is very important to Geelong and can take a very strong contested grab up forward.
    
    Hope that makes sense? Hard to sometimes get across in writing.
- edge
  July 1, 2010 • 9:48 am
  
  As a Geelong supporter I’m with you here.
  
  Ablett’s more flashy, but in terms of getting the job done, Chappy is the man. He either kicks or sets up so many goals, averages more marks and we are just so much more dangerous when he’s on the field.
  
  Ablett is 2.5 years younger though, so would hurt a lot more if we lost him to the gold coast.
tkol
July 1, 2010 • 8:47 am

I also hate Hille….

Ive been playing Jackson Trengove for the last 2 weeks with scores of 33 and 40 as a return.
Thanks for nothing Hille, its FINALLY time to welcome Sandilands. Fuck you Dean Cox too! Welcome to the never again list you slow old man!
- Sammy H
  July 1, 2010 • 9:47 am
  
  You represent everything I despise about (so-called) DreamTeamers.
  
  Dean Cox has been the go to DT ruckman/God for the better part of a decade; shom some respect you f**knose.
  - tkol
    July 1, 2010 • 12:14 pm
    
    Well im registered in the game so i am a dream teamer you goose!
LG
July 1, 2010 • 8:58 am

Really undecided about what to do about Hille. I really only need him for this week (after which I can win without him). Unfortunately I need to win this week to keep my Top 4 chances alive.

There’s three options I can see…

Try my luck and wait for Hille to come back (and hopefully not hurt himself again)

Hille to Cox (never had Cox in my team in previous years)

Trade Silvagni or Webberly to that West Coast guy (Strijk?), which will give me enough cash for Ryder.

sucks I have to decide this arvo!
- LG
  July 1, 2010 • 9:03 am
  
  BTW I already have Sandi
  - RL Tigers
    July 1, 2010 • 10:10 am
    
    I’ve got Sandi and Cox, they seem to be doing me ok in the ruck, and bought Strijk this week as back up, though I was replacing Trengove. So therefore more like a cheap upgrade!!
Swanstragic
July 1, 2010 • 10:21 am

Does anyone know anything about a guy called Paul Stewart from Port? My team is pretty well set, still got 7 trades and some cash, but my bench is f**ked, especially now Gysberts looks like he won’t play for a while. I’m thinking that spending a trade and $64K to upgrade Gysberts to Paul Stewart might make sense. Stewart costs $225, averages 61 and has played every game, plus he is a Mid/Back, so he can cover some of my backs like Hodge & Goddard as well as my mids. Does that make sense or is a waste of a trade just to get cover? I’m a second-year player, doing OK this year but still learning, so advice from experts is appreciated!
- McScoundrel
  July 1, 2010 • 2:54 pm
  
  I can’t believe this…I traded for him weeks ago and traded him out a few weeks ago. I thought he could average between 60 and 70 consistently, but the problem is, whilst his average is 60, he’s just as likely to get 30 as he is to get 80 which just isn’t any good to anyone come the finals. No-one passes to him when Port are trying to get the ball quickly from defence to attack…too many mids like Boak and Cornes, etc, drop deeper to get those possessions. He’s an old-fashioned solid defender who plays on the half-back line like a full back, fisting the ball at every opportunity. Bad idea imo, depends what you’re looking for.
- Mad__5kills
  July 1, 2010 • 3:11 pm
  
  You can always trade for cover when you need cover. If you have no donuts this week then you may as well wait (Unless there are late withdrawals). If Gysberts gets a game in the mean time you make the extra money and can see if Stewart (or someone else) is named for that week you need them.
  
  He is not a great DTer and expensive just for cover, but dual position has helped me several times this year and any score is better than 0.
  
  A lot of people are in the same situation with cover so depends what you are aiming for and competing against too.
eeepobreci
July 1, 2010 • 10:24 am

Nice write up Roy.
lol, I traded in Buddy last week, (v.c) & Harvey, the week before!
This week need to upgrade Mayne, & can afford Gia, & that’ll be 3 out of the 4 fwds you listed!
Although I could wait a week & play P.Davis or Stewart-yuk!
5 trades left, shit, to Gia, or not to Gia?
Fwds- Pav,Didak,Harvey,Buddy,Higgins,Rockliff,Mayne…Pdavis/Stewart.
Hmmmmm????
Resh
July 1, 2010 • 10:43 am

Thinking of upgrading Armstrong to Boyd to complete my midfield… But Armstrong still looks good and if he gets the time on ground I reckon he could turn into a good backup player…

Thoughts?
- Gazinator
  July 1, 2010 • 10:53 am
  
  What are your other upgrade options? Boyd will fluctuate around the $450,000 mark for the remainder of the season… Armstrong is ‘closing the gap’ every week he increases in value, so Boyd will only become more and more affordable even if he does go up $20,000 more or so…
  - Resh
    July 1, 2010 • 11:03 am
    
    Midfield is: swan, bartel, selwood, Stanton, Barlow, Armstrong (shuey and gysberts)…
    
    Think i might just wait to maximise armstrongs value then
Gazinator
July 1, 2010 • 10:50 am

My only non playing bench rookies are Gysberts, Warnock and Seamus. Oh and then there is the Brown injury, but so far so good. I too am waiting for Voldts return… I have one more spot to upgrade in the forward line (Hall) with 6 trades left. Initial indications seem to show he might not score as well sharing the forward line with the smiling assassin, or alternatively it could take the number 1 defender off him… I’d wet myself if Hall and Voldt become a direct swap!!

However if things dont look good for Saint Nick I will probably go Pav or Buddy…

Great write up Roy!
Spector
July 1, 2010 • 11:12 am

Coxy’s groins are sore. If you don’t have him I wouldn’t go near him.
- orbs
  July 1, 2010 • 12:04 pm
  
  Whats ur source of this info?
  - Spector
    July 1, 2010 • 12:23 pm
    
    Dean Cox
    
    Ch 9 news in Perth on Monday night
  - Superted
    July 1, 2010 • 12:27 pm
    
    I heard that there was an interview with Cox but can find no proof of this. I am wanting to bring in Cox for Hille but waiting nervously for more info
    - Spector
      July 1, 2010 • 12:28 pm
      
      He basically said:
      
      “The mid-season break came at a really good time because both of my groins were quite sore”
      
      Then continued some discussion about osteitis pubis.
      - displaced
        July 1, 2010 • 12:43 pm
        
        I like how you keep pluralizing “groin”. Cox has multiple groins. Awesome!!!
    - Spector
      July 1, 2010 • 12:57 pm
      
      Well you have an adductor muscle on each side so ye…
spuzzlord
July 1, 2010 • 11:15 am

is anyone else considering HMac as a cheap replacement for Hille?

Cox seems a worry with injury, and ryder is too expensive. Mumford is looking good now but when seaby comes back in time for the DT finals his scores will suffer. So Hmac seems good to me. can anyone tell me a good reason not to pick him?
- PurpleArmy
  July 1, 2010 • 5:44 pm
  
  had hmac all year, been handy. averaging 78 and for a 300k (at the moment) ruck id take that any day
MW
July 1, 2010 • 11:23 am

Good write up Roy!

food for thought and after riding 2 weeks of crapola scores from Trengove it’s time to say piss off Hille and hello Sandi (before his price jumps back up).

Now if only Kennelley can man the fcuk up as my cover for the suspended Waite.
profane01
July 1, 2010 • 12:55 pm

Which midfielder should I get?
I have over 500k to spend on a midfielder (Have Bartel, Cooney, Swan, Mitchell)
Looking at Ablett, Montagna, Hayes, Boyd

Will any of these players be rested?
Will Abletts scores decrease as he gets closer to signing a new contract?

Im leading towards a St Kilda midfielder but the 65 they both scored against Fremantle doesnt look too pretty..
- beermee
  July 1, 2010 • 1:11 pm
  
  get barlow, everyone else has him and when he bashes out 120+ you will be behind the 8 ball without him……..
  - profane01
    July 1, 2010 • 1:32 pm
    
    Yeah I got barlow, i didnt bother writing his name because everyone has him lol
- Young GUNS
  July 1, 2010 • 2:02 pm
  
  I have boyd and Ablett.
  
  At this point in the year out of those 2 I would go with Boyd. He will improve and push hard until the end of the Season you will be looking at maybe a couple of games off for Ablett. The little extra cash may come in handy later aswell.
  
  Boyd has been one of my favourite picks
  - Bluedreamin
    July 2, 2010 • 12:30 am
    
    +1
    Wish I had gone with my first instinct and picked Boyd from the start. He’s a consistent gun.
baconb
July 1, 2010 • 1:15 pm

Yeah wouldn’t go near Hayes
140 then 65 then backed it up with a 134 last week stay away.

Fuck getting guys who have got 7-8 straight hundreds.
- PurpleArmy
  July 1, 2010 • 5:49 pm
  
  yeah that 65 was when he was heavily tagged though at subi, same with Montagna. look at there run home though!. got 6 of the next 8 games at Etihad…….Done deal i’d say for either one
tkol
July 1, 2010 • 2:29 pm

How scarey is this for an Eliminator match up

ME HIM
Fisher Gilbert
Scotland Malceski

Ablett Hayes
Boyd Gibbs

Pavlich Harvey
- Young GUNS
  July 1, 2010 • 2:38 pm
  
  Boyd for sure….. the rest are a coin toss
  - Young GUNS
    July 1, 2010 • 2:39 pm
    
    and yes I even mean Ablett and hayes
    - tkol
      July 1, 2010 • 2:48 pm
      
      God Strike down on you… Sweet Merciful Jesus!
      - Mad__5kills
        July 1, 2010 • 5:03 pm
        
        Calvins Captains
        
        GAJ 122 Lenny 99
        PAV 80 Harvey 68
        Boyd 122 Gibbs 84
- Hook
  July 1, 2010 • 3:10 pm
  
  Thats about as close as you can get
  
  If I had to bet I’d back you just.
  Ling should tag Harvey and Pavlich should have a field day at home against Port.
  Mids and backs pretty much even each other out
  
  Whats the eliminator down to now?
  - tkol
    July 1, 2010 • 3:14 pm
    
    512….
- profane01
  July 1, 2010 • 3:25 pm
  
  Wow thats going to be a cracking match!
  In my eliminator it is also going to be quite close I think:
  
  ME HIM
  Carazzo Gilbert
  Malceski Hargrave
  Mitchell Gibbs
  Cooney Selwood
  Franklin Goodes
  Giansiracusa Rockliff
  
  We both have armstrong but ill be upgrading to Ablett/Montagna which might get me over the line
  - Young GUNS
    July 1, 2010 • 3:43 pm
    
    I have him slightly ahead of you…. but if you bring in Ablett or motagna… and he doesn’t do the same you should get the extra points you will need.
  - tkol
    July 1, 2010 • 3:47 pm
    
    Nice One…. Good luck mate!
- Gazinator
  July 1, 2010 • 3:51 pm
  
  That is a really tight one mate! Should make for good footy
- edge
  July 1, 2010 • 4:28 pm
  
  My matchup looks really tight as well:
  
  Me: Him
  
  Gilbert vs Scotland
  Malceski vs Heath Shaw
  Hayes vs Bartel
  Kornes vs Judd
  Cox vs Tippett
  Buddy vs Rockliff
  Rioli vs ???
  
  He currently has brown, playfair and danny hughes on the bench, so i’m assuming he trades one of them out, otherwise (fingers crossed) he’ll have a doughnut. He has a very low ranking so wondering if he’s blown all his trades already?
  
  Hoping Voss sticks to his word and uses “any tactic possible” to tag judd tonight. Surely shaw is due for a stinker after 100 last week… fingers crossed. Important game tonight..
- tupperware
  July 2, 2010 • 10:23 am
  
  I’m rooting for you, you should win everyday of the week!
flying high
July 1, 2010 • 2:30 pm

Hey guys i have a problem that i cant figure out my forward line includes chapman, gia, okeefe, didak, pods, goodes, higgins, rockliff and gumby….

WHICH 2 DO I PUT ON THE BENCH!!

gumby + who?

ive had rock covering higgins, but now that higgins isnt on the injury list i assume he will return. also its still possible that higging and chap wont play even is named, so do i risk putting both my bench players as emergency?
- Young GUNS
  July 1, 2010 • 2:42 pm
  
  how many players do you think might not play?
  
  If its one then just one emergency…. you don’t want the lowest score to be the one to count. To me you need to downgrade one of your players.
  
  I would leave out higgins… yes I know… but rockcliff and pods and goodes and rok….
  
  goodes and rok are playing Richmond
- profane01
  July 1, 2010 • 3:26 pm
  
  list your midfield
  - flying high
    July 1, 2010 • 4:39 pm
    
    swan, bartell, hayes, dal santo barlow and ball… 9 trades left
    backs are: goddard, hodge, enright, waters, malceski, shaw and maguire (hunt and silvagni)
    
    im doing maguire -> gilbert this week so il have 8 trades
    
    i agree i need to downgrade one player and i think it might be pods its a tough one. ball will go to ablett soonish then my only other trade i would consider would be shaw -> lake maybe or carazzo or someone better.
    
    that means 1 downgrade will give me enough for ball and shaw upgrades. 5 trades left with a team that is worthy of a top 100 finish if all goes well
    - profane01
      July 1, 2010 • 4:53 pm
      
      Looking very solid.
      I was going to suggest downgrading a midfield bench player to Mcneil.. Then you could put Chappy in your mids and play all your forwards. But since your starting mids look solid it might be pointless. Depends if you want Ball or Higgins starting I guess.
      
      Also Strijk might be a good option to free up cash and upgrade Ball to Ablett next week. However I would hold onto Shaw for a few more weeks because of his good DT history.
      - flying high
        July 1, 2010 • 5:17 pm
        
        the shaw trade would onle be made if i get no injuries over the next month or so. i dont want him in my finals team, although if i get injuries hes not the worst player to take in
Young GUNS
July 1, 2010 • 3:11 pm

Hey Roy or Warnie could you give me the Geelong Coaches Mobile number…. just want to give him a call to make sure Chappo is playing this week.
- tkol
  July 1, 2010 • 3:47 pm
  
  0421 255 631
  - Young GUNS
    July 1, 2010 • 3:52 pm
    
    I’ll let you know what he says…………
Gazinator
July 1, 2010 • 4:01 pm

For $3.50 you could text Bomber Thompson to Bongo… They seem legit
Camoflage
July 1, 2010 • 4:08 pm

ok so current forward line is:
JOHNSON, JPOD, ROCKLIFF, O’KEEFE, GIA, BETTS, HITCHCOCK
BENCH: BROWN, PLAYFAIR
now johnson is out for 3 weeks. I have 97k and 5 trades left so who should i trade johnson for?
chappy, dale thomas?
- Encunted
  July 1, 2010 • 4:19 pm
  
  I’m in a similar situation as you. I’m strongly considering Franklin. I might consider Chappy for my midfield in a week or two.
  - Camoflage
    July 1, 2010 • 4:39 pm
    
    yeah but my midfield is complete so there is no need to get him there but i think i do need chappy in my team to be a contender for the rest of the year
    - Encunted
      July 1, 2010 • 5:31 pm
      
      I’m just not sold on Thomas, so I’d go with Chappy.
sugnayeragam
July 1, 2010 • 5:57 pm

I’ve got Stevie J, Maguire, J Brown and Hille all injured on my bench. Only got 5 trades left, so is it worth trading any of them, or do I need to just hold off?
Ike
July 1, 2010 • 6:16 pm

Hey Roy whats this about that Lenny Hayes (Hayse) ownage? Didn’t he have one of if not the highest DT score last round???? Bit rough on Hayes I reckon….

Considering holding off for a couple more weeks for the mighty Roo as a replacement forward for anyone who gets injured from here on in!! With a BE of 150odd, he will be cheap and is the best DT forward in the game (or equal first with Chappy).
- Ike
  July 1, 2010 • 7:56 pm
  
  Fuck it, nevermind, I misread it…
Patto.
July 1, 2010 • 6:17 pm

Gram (in 2 weeks) or Heath Shaw this week?
- Ike
  July 1, 2010 • 6:26 pm
  
  Gram hands down mate (thats what I’m doin), a fit Gram is DT heaven, Shaw is a rollercoaster noone needs this time of year!
wallcob
July 2, 2010 • 11:28 am

my smokey to replace kreuzer = jolly!!
- Jack
  July 5, 2010 • 9:51 pm
  
  if you don’t have more than 40,000 in your sallary cap you can’t get jolly.

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