Chook’s Rooks – Round 8

Posted by Chook on 18/5/10 • Categorised as Chook's Rooks

Clearly Michael Barlow loves a challenge. The week after Melbourne midfielder Tom Scully racked up a rookie-record 134 points, the lanky Freo first-year player responded immediately by setting the bar higher again with an Ablettesque 146. Hey Barlow, I bet you can’t bust out a 150. That should do the trick.

It’s a pretty key week in rookie trading this one, with a bunch of our initial pick-ups hitting their peak and some interesting two-gamers making their case for selection in our sides. Firstly, the ones that have been around for a while.

Three-or-more gamers

Obviously Barlow’s still got some growth left after that monster score, as does Scully with that 134 still in his system. The other “good guys” of round eight were Adelaide backman Chris Schmidt, who brought up his maiden ton, and Matts Maguire and Jaensch, who both nailed 90s. The warm feeling generated by Jaensch’s breakout performance quickly dissipated when it was revealed he’ll miss this week after hanging with former DT starlet Bernie Vince into the early hours. There were 80s too for West Coast midfielder Lewis Stevenson, Western Bulldogs forward Jarrad Grant and Hawthorn forward Carl Petersen. Grant owners will be happy with the score, but even happier with the news that veteran teammates Brad Johnson and Robert Murphy remain injured, guaranteeing Grant’s spot for some time to come. Petersen has shown it’s possible to climb out of the red zone, stringing together a couple of good scores to knock his price up and his breakeven back down to a more-than-manageable 6. Hopefully it’s an example the next lot of blokes can follow.

Sydney midfielder Lewis Jetta suffered an $8k loss last week, taking a BE of 47 into the next round. He wasn’t the only one leaking cash, however, with Melbourne’s No.2 pick Jack Trengove slipping $6k and mini drops for Carlton’s Kane Lucas and Hawthorn’s Ben Stratton. Not major losses, then, but it’s clear that it’s time to offload this lot. Brisbane’s Todd Banfield takes the highest BE into round nine, needing 84 to breakeven. He’s averaging 65 on the season. You can probably sell the likes of Scott Gumbleton, Mitch Farmer, Dustin Martin, Anthony Morabito, Ryan Bastinac and Ben Nason without sacrificing too many future price rises as well. While I’m hanging on to Gumby as a forward bench heartbeat, and Farmer simply hasn’t made enough dough to be worth the trade, I’d be looking at cashing in the other cows sooner rather than later. According to the comments on the last couple of posts, Nason in particular is going to figure in a few trades this week.

Two gamers

Unless you’ve already got him, Nason’s Richmond teammate Jeromey Webberley seems to be the popular target of a backline downgrade trade this week, and with good reason. While failing to score heavily yet, Webberley has done enough on field to impress the Tiger faithful that he’s worth persisting with. The other pros are his “mature-aged-ness” and the fact that he plays for a team more interested in developing their list than gifting games to the old blokes. If you’re cashing in Nason (or Hunt/Maguire, etc), then your other option is West Coast’s Brad Sheppard, who wouldn’t be the worst pick-up in the history of DT, but you’ll pay an extra $40k for lower job security and, arguably, a lower points-per-game average, too.

Melbourne forward Danny Hughes is another two gamer tempting coaches this week. Scoring doesn’t seem too much of a problem, with above par scores of 63 and 74 so far. The loss of Ricky Petterd has convinced many that his job security is good too, although I’m still wary of what impact the impending return of Cale Morton and Austin Wonaeamirri will have. As a Dees supporter, I will at least say that I’m glad someone is getting a go ahead of serial failure Brad Miller. The other forward downgrade option this week is Sydney’s Gary Rohan. Many of the same arguments for Webberley over Sheppard can be made for Hughes over Rohan, so I won’t repeat myself. The big bonus in Rohan’s favour is his dual-position status (he’s available in the mids, too), giving his owners some flexibility if short-term injury or omission strikes down the track.

The final two gamer up for grabs this week is Tony Armstrong, who would’ve made plenty of coaches take note with a monster 123 for Adelaide. The midfielder’s first game, back in round one, yielded just 36, so there’s a massive discrepancy between his best and worst. His best is pretty good though.

One gamers

Five rookie-priced footballers played their first games of 2010 last week, although most of them have AFL experience and, as a result, come at a slightly higher cost than the average first-year player. None of them did anything particularly special on debut, but for the record they were forwards Henry Playfair (62), Jack Watts (53), Nick Heyne (40) and Cameron Stokes (28), and ruckman Wayde Skipper (37). I’d still be grabbing Hughes if you thought one of your forward rookies was close to hitting their peak instead of waiting for around for one of these blokes.

1,043 Comments

Dugless
May 19, 2010 • 4:46 pm

Hey guys looking at a couple of trades this week to secure a 6th midfield position. I’m sick of copping a low score most weeks from Martin/Bastinac. I’m thinking of trading Bastinac to Rohan and then putting him in my forward line and chucking Brennan in my mids. Then I’ll trade Brennan to (most likely) Nick Dal Santo or Marc Murphy.
- McScoundrel
  May 19, 2010 • 4:57 pm
  
  I was keen on Rohan but I’m not now. He played as a leading forward last week and was ineffective and played in defence and was beaten a bit too easily. Probably no coincidence that Roos kept him in the wings for so long. Job security very low imo. Only if you can afford a luxury player in your forwards I reckon.
Birdy
May 19, 2010 • 4:50 pm

dal sants all the way :) hopefully he can take the oncoming tags anyone see my lat question? any advice???
Gazinator
May 19, 2010 • 4:50 pm

What are peoples thoughts on Jay-Z’s 94 coinsiding with Liam Anthony’s absence? I didn’t watch the game but was he allowed more midfield time?
- Birdy
  May 19, 2010 • 4:53 pm
  
  Jay Z?
  - patto
    May 19, 2010 • 4:58 pm
    
    i think he may mean Jack Ziebell
    - Nath
      May 19, 2010 • 7:08 pm
      
      yeah he was on my trade list a couple of weeks ago, but when Liam Anthony did his shoulder i knew Ziebell would get more of a chance to run the midfield so i held out and waaaaalla, he came back with a 94 so i think i will keep him for a couple more games now his BE has gone down to 30 odd. Keep him for a couple and see how he goes…he has no signs of being injured and should be able to post a few good scores & earn you some cash with Anthony out.
patto
May 19, 2010 • 4:57 pm

last week when i traded in Goddard i assumed my backline to be set for the year

it reads as follows:

Hodge, Goddard, Enright, Broughton, Grimes, Gram, Hargrave (Maguire, Webberly)

i knew Gram could be out for a bit but i thought Maguire would be good cover in the time being so i wouldn’t have to use a trade
now i find out Broughton is injured and im in crisis mode!

with 12 trades remaining and $63,200 in the bank i need some serious help

should i trade, leave it or what ?
- Wraygun
  May 19, 2010 • 5:02 pm
  
  I think you should use 1 trade! whoever has the least length of an injury shall stay in your team
  - JamesChaff
    May 19, 2010 • 5:16 pm
    
    Hold it.
    Gram is covered and Webberly will play this week.
    Why make changes that might not be needed?
    Wait until teams come out.
    If Webberly is not playing, trade.
    If he is, no need to trade and address it next week.
leegend
May 19, 2010 • 5:00 pm

Skipper and Mike Pyke look like the cheap rucks getting game time and i wouldn’t bank on pyke for too long, while skipper will only be in until taylor’s back, but that’s apparently 8-10. That’d free up cash, but your team looks quite strong
- Birdy
  May 19, 2010 • 5:05 pm
  
  ok thanks last time jordan roughhead played they (commetators) said he was a star of the future or something like that, im guesssing that doesnt neccaseraliy mean hes going to play alot this year???
Gazinator
May 19, 2010 • 5:03 pm

Jay-Z = Jack Ziebell

His nickname last season.
- Birdy
  May 19, 2010 • 5:08 pm
  
  ok so theres been alot of talk about hughes and webberly, are they like definatly (or close to it) going to play this week or what?? im an impatient person and i want to make trades :) :) :)
JamesChaff
May 19, 2010 • 5:07 pm

Okay I am having an issue.

Trades I am considering.

Balla –> Hughes.
Banner —> Armstrong
Trengove —> Armstrong.

These are all cash making trades and not real long term deals.

Or should I give Trengove a chance to earn a touch more?
And leave Banner for when I might need some cash later in the year? (big hope that he comes back).

Thoughts?
hados
May 19, 2010 • 5:08 pm

should i keep or sell borughtan i have silvani and davis on the bench and looking to sell one of them to upgrade some 1
- Birdy
  May 19, 2010 • 5:10 pm
  
  could do the downgrade and make him your upgrade__ maybe
  - hados
    May 19, 2010 • 5:11 pm
    
    yer but i want 2 upgrade balla
    - hados
      May 19, 2010 • 5:13 pm
      
      or bastinac
    - Birdy
      May 19, 2010 • 5:16 pm
      
      well i would consider davis for webberly but im no pro
- Swamp Dragon
  May 19, 2010 • 6:35 pm
  
  I’d sell Broughton for the cash given that he’s going to be out for weeks.
  This should give Silvani greater job security and he’s already scoring pretty well so can cover on your field quite respectably.
the zohan
May 19, 2010 • 5:48 pm

I need to upgrade nason to a gun. Who would you pick out of these guys:

CARRAZZO
SCOTLAND
GILBERT
DUFFIELD
MACKIE
KELLY
- Jimmy
  May 19, 2010 • 5:56 pm
  
  DUFFMAN
  - the zohan
    May 19, 2010 • 6:03 pm
    
    Yeah if i go duffman i can get him this week rather than waiting for martin to raise in price
    
    Is duffman the goods or is it worth waiting?
    - the zohan
      May 19, 2010 • 6:13 pm
      
      do you think broughton being out will increase of decrease the duffmans points?
      - Jimmy
        May 19, 2010 • 7:41 pm
        
        Thats what i was wondering too. It could do either..
      - the zohan
        May 19, 2010 • 7:43 pm
        
        , i don’t think duffy is going to cop a tag and therefore with broughton being out i think he will get more of the ball, thats what im hoping anyway.
- PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)
  May 19, 2010 • 8:13 pm
  
  I think Gilbert, he gets a lot of cheap marks and kicks in the backline and is normally the guy who marks it in from Kick ins. Hes averaging 10 marks a game!!
PieMan
May 19, 2010 • 6:20 pm

I have been thinking for a few hours and I have big plans!!
I have 23k left at the moment.
Maguire’s BE is only 25 so I would think his price could rise to about 300k.
Once he gets to that price I could trade him out for one of the Brisbane boys in Bryce Retzlaff and Jesse O’Brien (both 89k) or Campbell Heath from Sydney (94k). You probably haven’t heard of them before but they have been put in he mix on the AFL website. http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/94564/default.aspx.
So that would roughly leave him with about 230k left.
Then i’m thinking if Howlett can continue his average of 70 his price would be up to about 250k.
If that happens I would have roughly 480k to spend on my final midfielder, I’m thinking Montagna or Boyd or even Chapman if he is around that price.
Plus that will leave me with a rock on my midfield bench in Dustin Martin.
This is still all a few weeks away. But I think it could work.

What does everybody think of this?
- Patto.
  May 19, 2010 • 6:39 pm
  
  Definitely will work….Look to get in Swanny/Ablett if you haven’t got either of them already.
  - PieMan
    May 19, 2010 • 7:00 pm
    
    thanks buddy. yeah i already have ablett and swan.
    my midfield is ablett, swan, bartel, barlow, mitchell, martin (howlett, JTK)
    - Patto.
      May 19, 2010 • 7:05 pm
      
      Gibbs + Brennan (Hughes will cover for 4 weeks) OR Balla + Swan?
Wraygun
May 19, 2010 • 6:35 pm

I think nobody is talking because were all so pumped for Calvins Captains!
Patto.
May 19, 2010 • 6:40 pm

Thoughts on getting in Swan this week even though the pink pig will tag the shit out of him?
- the zohan
  May 19, 2010 • 6:41 pm
  
  swanny is a champion, you need to get him in before he passes the 500g mark
- brad16
  May 19, 2010 • 6:43 pm
  
  nah the ppink pig will tag pendlebury in front of swan. swan gets heaps of the soft possensions and doesnt hurt them as much as pendlebury will. so get him in he will get 120 plus this week
  - PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)
    May 19, 2010 • 8:05 pm
    
    Ling normally goes to him though, the prelims last year he killed him for a 60ish :(. im thinking of just getting him anyway myself. he grabbed a 112 round 3 last year but dunno if anyone was tagging him
    - PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)
      May 19, 2010 • 8:10 pm
      
      Just checked up his stats against the cats. he’s averaging 91 against them in his carear so there not a bad team for him to play against. from ’06-’09 his scores are 123, 86, 106, 123, 112 and 68.
brad16
May 19, 2010 • 6:41 pm

im thinking of doing these trades

gumbleton –> hughes (definetly)

martin –> armstrong (maybe)

then next week

ziebell to montagna

mayne to rok

what are your thoughts
- the zohan
  May 19, 2010 • 6:44 pm
  
  at this stage im a going the martin to armstong stage. With crows injuries, suspensions and the fact that they will start dropping the old players soon gives armstong enough job security for me.
- brad16
  May 19, 2010 • 6:52 pm
  
  my team at the moment so far is
  
  def: goddard, hodge, hargrave, malceski , waters, enright , shaw with silvagni/webberly
  
  mid: swan, boyd, gibbs, bartel , ziebell (upgrading) , barlow with martin/ jetta
  
  Ruck: sandilands and jamar with warnock and a no name
  
  fwds: gia, didak, higgins, goodes, mayne, pods , buddy with trock and gumby
  
  hows it looking?
  
  got 13 trades left with 7k
Chartreuse
May 19, 2010 • 6:54 pm

Regarding Rockliff, now with Fev/Brown’s potential injury concerns, say in the offchance both Brownie and Fev (or either) were both deemed to be injured and out for a few weeks, anyone think Rockliff all of a sudden will get the ball kicked to him rather than being ignored by the other Brisbane players and therefore get decent scores?

Warnie suggested flog rockliff off for Hughes then upgrade Gumby to Didak whch made good sense…but that was before Fev/Brown were sent to some freaking doctor (or day spa) in SA.
- brad16
  May 19, 2010 • 6:58 pm
  
  im hoping that trock will play the rest of the year with hughes for bench cover.
Danger
May 19, 2010 • 6:58 pm

What are everyones thoughts on Deledio??
- brad16
  May 19, 2010 • 7:10 pm
  
  dont get him hes a spud
  - brad16
    May 19, 2010 • 7:36 pm
    
    for 9k more you can get gibbs. so get gibbs
  - Danger
    May 19, 2010 • 9:11 pm
    
    How is he a spud?? Averaged 98 two years ago and 96 last year. Finishes seasons off wonderfully and hasn’t missed a game in three years.
jimboy77
May 19, 2010 • 7:11 pm

My head is spinning from all the options this round. I think I have come up with a risky but maybe good idea. It depends on no other real emergency trades being required over the next two weeks. Please let me know your opinion.

Backs and Forwards pretty sorted, holes are in my mid and rucks;
MID: Swan, Barlow, Selwood, Montagna, McKenzie, Lucas with Martin and Shuey
RUCK: Cox, NicNat with Warnock and Bass

Thinking of this week Lucas>Armstrong, Gumby>Hughes. Leaves me $330k free but will be playing Martin which is ok I guess.

Next week thinking NicNat > Sandi then either McKenzie > Lenny or Martin > some other premium mid.

Otherwise I might just trade out Lucas & NicNat this week for Armstrong & Sandi, then reassess next week.

Whaddya think??? Thanks for any responses.
- the zohan
  May 19, 2010 • 7:13 pm
  
  sandi is a powerhouse in the ruck, get him in if possible
  - Gerryboy
    May 19, 2010 • 7:23 pm
    
    I’ll 2nd that, get sandi if you can this week…will cut it up against the Swans
the zohan
May 19, 2010 • 7:25 pm

Thoughts on Duffman anyone, im looking to get him in for nason. Is there anyone else i should consider?
- brad16
  May 19, 2010 • 7:37 pm
  
  who r ur backs at the moment?
  - the zohan
    May 19, 2010 • 7:44 pm
    
    hodge, enright, shaw, hargrave, kennely, nason davis webberely
    
    Its my weakest part of field and i need to upgrade nason
    - brad16
      May 19, 2010 • 7:47 pm
      
      get grimes he is going to gun it soon
      - the zohan
        May 19, 2010 • 7:52 pm
        
        i have 366, 300 to spend this week and grimes is 376 so i would have to wait at least one week to make that trade, that is why im leaning towards duffman. Thoughts?
    - PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)
      May 19, 2010 • 7:57 pm
      
      also Gilbert. gets heaps of marks and kicks. Hes leading the league in marks by 12!. priced at $394ish with a low BE..:)
      - PurpleArmy (aka Space Goats)
        May 19, 2010 • 8:00 pm
        
        just noticed you have 366k, nevermind about Gilbert ;)
      - the zohan
        May 19, 2010 • 8:06 pm
        
        no worries, looks like ill go for duffy atm
- Jimmy
  May 19, 2010 • 7:47 pm
  
  Not sure how Broughton being out will affect his scoring, could be a good thing though
Shazzam
May 19, 2010 • 7:26 pm

Who to scratch Duncan or Dangerfield?

I’m thinking Duncan as job security is getting less.
- alex010
  May 19, 2010 • 7:37 pm
  
  just to help u out shazzam id defs say duncan as dangerfield has lost alot of players around him hel be gettin it kicked to him left rightand center was lookin good b4 he got injured 61 isnt the worst return 4 him can some1 please tell me wat they think on the freo syd game
  - brad16
    May 19, 2010 • 7:38 pm
    
    sydney will win by 7 goals
  - Shazzam
    May 19, 2010 • 7:47 pm
    
    Freo easy even if if is at the SCG. Bradshaw’s lost his fire.
alex010
May 19, 2010 • 7:32 pm

hey coments on sydney freo game would be much appreciated what players will swans have back and who do you guys think will win and by howmuch off topic but would love the info
- tupperware
  May 19, 2010 • 8:04 pm
  
  Bradshaw should be back.. which is what they were lacking.. A big man at fullforward.
alex010
May 19, 2010 • 7:45 pm

that is what i dont get sydney are playing crap atm and freo are a quality side and what really swings me freo way is sandilands vs pykeee
- brad16
  May 19, 2010 • 7:47 pm
  
  sydney to win by 7 goals
- Jam Doughnut
  May 19, 2010 • 7:51 pm
  
  i would hardly say sydney are playing crap footy, but sandilands vs pyke has really gotta make u take freos chances seriously. itd be a shoe in if it was at subi. havent seen the team without broughton in a while though so interesting to see what happens back there
  - Birdy
    May 20, 2010 • 5:47 pm
    
    mike pyke will only be the number 2 ruckman though because mumford will be back in wont he???
- eeepo
  May 19, 2010 • 8:18 pm
  
  I’m going Freo! ( so far in tipping hav tipped their 6 wins & 2 losses)
  Small ground & Sandi ruck dominance tips it in Freo’s favour, imo.
  Can feel a week of upsets coming up!
dt lad
May 19, 2010 • 7:50 pm

169k and 13 trades left

Carrazzo Hodge Enright, Gilbee, Waters Kennelly(to fisher) Webberley(will go to bench)
(Maguire (will be sheppard) J.Macdonald,(290k))Will be duffield and he go on field)

Bartel, Barlow, Pendlebury, Ball, Mitchell, Martin(will be montagna) (D Howlett, B Shuey, L)

Sandilands, Hille, (Warnock, R McNamara, S)

Pavlich, Giansiracusa, O’Keefe, Didak, Brown, Brennan, Podsiadly, (Gumbleton, S Roberts, R)

This week, i’ll trade martin to montagna and maguire down to sheppard.
Next week J.Macdonald – duffield and maybe trade kennelly to sammy fisher (who is droppping price)
Team should then be looking alright with 10 trades left. gumby is covering for brennan.

Good ideas???, feedback appriceated as well as ideas
MC
May 19, 2010 • 8:07 pm

My original plan was to bring in goddard for silvagni this week and cut the loses with relton and move to hughes. However people think ballantyne is a weeker link. I have looked at possble fwd upgrades and Stevie J was really the only i liked (cant reach chappy). Should i sure up my backline with someone like goddard. Advice is greatly appreciated.

The team looks like…
Def: Hodge, Carrots, Enright, Waters, Shaw, Kennelly and Maguire with Silvagni and Webberly
Mids: Stanton, Boyd, Selwood, Mitchell, Gibbs, Barlow with Martn and Howlett
Ruck: Sandi and Hille with Bass and Seamus
Fwds: Pav, Gia, Rok, Brown, Didak, Balla and Pods, with Gumby and Relton
Bank 230k

Cheers
Assasins
May 19, 2010 • 8:39 pm

My back bench is SILVANI and HAMS……keen to downgrade silvani to webberly but then will not have much cover on my bench…keen to keep silvani all season as he is a good backup but also need to milk him for cash to upgrade…dilema!!!!!
- Danger
  May 19, 2010 • 9:12 pm
  
  Don’t have maguire?
Fapmyster
May 21, 2010 • 12:16 am

Forward line is
ROK, Gia, Brown, Didak, Ziebell, Murphy, Pods (Gumby, Hitchcock)
Thinking of trading Gumby to Playfair after hughes was dropped and then upgrading murphy to pav or stevie J. Should I hold off until murphy retuns and upgrade Ziebell instead or sit on my trades? 10 left and 32k in bank
- Fapmyster
  May 21, 2010 • 12:17 am
  
  i mean 12 trades left, would be 10 after doing a double trade

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