Chook’s Rooks – Round 7
Illness, work and the utter devastation of selling Tom Scully on the eve of his breakout 130+ point game have conspired to make this the shortest Chook’s Rooks of all-time. Lucky, then, that it’s been a week of little importance in the rookie world.
Three-or-more gamers
Still with me? I gotta admit, I’d have already stopped reading a post purportedly containing rookie advice if the author just told me they’d sold Tom Scully last week too. To be fair, though, the Melbourne midfielder’s 134 against the Western Bulldogs could be deemed at least slightly unexpected considering he matched his SEASON average points per game in the final quarter alone. Anyway, Scully’s score is now the single-game benchmark for the 2010 crop, even outdoing serial high scorer Michael Barlow‘s 128 in round one. Lots more cash coming his way, then, with a new breakeven of -9. James Podsiadly was the other superstar of the round, with his third hundred in five games earning the Geelong forward a BE of -32, despite already rising $180k. Coaches will have to wait a while for the next price rise, however, with a sore JPod shelved this week for Matthew Stokes.
At the other end of the scale, Scully’s teammate Jack Trengove has the highest breakeven with 65 and looks set for only marginal rises from here on in, but I’ll be %$&ed if I’m selling him just yet after the Scully debarcle. He did have 66 at the half last week before tailing off. I’m tipping that Ben Nason in the backs and Scott Gumbleton in the forwards have almost reached their ceiling too, but such predictions will no doubt herald Gary Ablett-like scores for the pair of popular rooks. The only rookie currently in the red zone (BE higher than season average) is Sydney midfielder Lewis Jetta, and his BE (62) is only marginally higher than his average (58), so a huge drop is unlikely anyway.
Obviously my decision to sell Scully last week was actually based less on what I thought the No.2 pick had left to offer and more on making sure I didn’t miss the Ben Howlett train. As we’ll see, this week the appeal of the two gamers is far less tempting…
Two gamers
It had looked as if we’d have three two gamers to consider as downgrade targets this week, but that rookie killer, General Soreness, has claimed another victim in Fremantle defender Dylan Roberton. That leaves West Coast’s Lewis Stevenson, a $94,500 midfielder, and Adelaide’s Matthew Jaensch, an $77,800 forward. Jaensch’s price and forays into the midfield are his pros, but a 38 last time out is the con. Stevenson might tempt coaches looking to offload a Jetta/Trengove/Bastinac/Morabito type, given the lack of midfield downgrade targets on the immediate horizon (Gary Rohan‘s coming along, but you’ll pay close to $140k for him) and the promising 79 he pumped out last week. I’m not going to say do or don’t, given my current form in such matters.
One gamers
Melbourne forward Danny Hughes was the top-scoring debutant in round 7, making the most of the chance that cropped up when Ricky Petterd sustained a long-term injury. The fact that he kept his spot despite the inclusion of Jack Watts this week is promising, and Liam Jurrah is still a long way off, but the Dees will be looking at Austin Wonaeamirri and Cale Morton soon enough. Three backs – Pearce Hanley, Jeromey Webberley and Brad Sheppard - played their first games of 2010 in round 7, the first of which has already been dropped, although the latter two offer some potential. We’ve mentioned Gary Rohan, whose price and poor first outing is off-putting, but could shape as a decent downgrade if only for the fact that there’s not a great deal else around. Shit, suddenly Stevenson is looking a little tastier to this trade-crazy DTer!
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Morrabito to Stevenson??? Will gain $120,000, only have 10 trades and will take me to 9. Worth it?
I’d say show us the rest of your team, shagger, but with just 10 trades left the answer is almost certainly no.
Still, show us the rest of your team and we’ll have a go at answering the Stevenson/Mora-shit-o question.
Back line is
Hodge, Goodard, Carrazo, Malceski, Enright, Shaw, Maguire with Schmidt and Davis on bench.
Midfield is
Ablett (C), Swan (VC), Barlow, Ball, Vince, Hill with Moabito and Sheuy on Bench
Rucks
Cox, Naitanui with Warnock and Zac Clarke From Freo on the bench
Forward line is
Pavlich, O’Keefe, Brown, Gwilt, Gumby, Peterson, Rockliff with Hall and Podsiadly on the bench
Have $9,800 in bank so looking for money but wanting to save trades
Happy with Backs, Mids and Rucks wanting to strenghten forward line.
Also do you no anything about Zac Clarke from Freo? Picked him at start of year bcoz was playing NAB cup, was named as an emergency a few weeks ago but thats about all
it doesn’t matter what you do because your team will still suck
Aw yeah and whys that?
You’re right about the forwards being the weak point. Downgrading Morabito would give you the cash to get a proper premo in for Hall, and I’m all for early upgrades to get your best team set as early as possible, but you’ve used quite a lot of trades already, shagger. I’d be doing it, if I was in your shoes, but only coz I’m a trade addict.
or would i be better waiting for another midfield rookie to emerge and jump on him?
Top work Chookie.
Cheers, herb.
Sorry for the lateness of the post, Warnie. Been crazy here at the roost. I see we’re going head-to-head this week, shagger. What’re you doing with Brennan/Pods?
All good, Chook! Don’t stress if you can never get it done (although was it coincidental that we’re playing each other this week?! Haha).
I am just trying to work out what I’ll do.
OPTION 1:
Brennan > Hughes (looks best for job security, Jaensch is talked up as a DTer though).
Martin > Lenny
OPTION 2:
Brennan > Leon Davis
OPTION 3:
Bench JB and Pods, play Gumby.
Tough calls. No idea what will happen yet!
I like option 1, but that is just throwing a LOT of caution to the wind and in Round 15 when I’m out of trades, I will be kicking myself!
I had to dump Liam Anthony this week so nabbed Swan-dawg. Think you’ve got me by about 50-100 points, Dawg.
Play the fumbleton!
God i hope Hitchcock is listed as playing tomorrow. Same with Howlett. Ill be stuck with 2 0′s unless i downgrade warren. I could potentially upgrade warren but i was hoping to use my cash to get goddard this week into my backline for nason
Well Warren was a dud, and now he has got himself dropped.
I think you should do the same.
Chook, bit stuck this round for trades. 8 trades down.
Hargrave, Enright, Kelly, Hodge, Malceski, Waters, Maguire…Nason, Davis (E)
Stanton, Bartel, Selwood, Ball, Barlow, Howlett….Maritn, Shuey
Cox, Sandy….Warny, Trengrove
Brown, Higgins, Gia, Brennan (on bench for next 3), Hall, Pods (on bench this wk)…..Balla, Hitchcock (both on field this wk hopefully)
I’m considering getting off Hall this week.
Thoughts on….
Nason-Webberly
Hall-Pavlich
?? Thanks in advance.
I’d be doing it, but I don’t like Bazza very much.
goooood stuffff chooookieeeeeee loving it
should Matthew Jaensch, get some more games throughout the year?
Given the Crows’ season thus far, he’s a decent shout.
He’s supposed to be a decent ball-winner, so I’m hoping those scores pick up too.
Thanks mate for the feedback
thinking of going Waters to Webberly
good/bad move?
then with that cash and the cash in my bank going one of 3 ways
Nason to Goddard
or
Martin/Bastinac to and mid except ablett+ chap (thinking montagna at this stage)
or
Trengove to Ablett
help? thoughts?
any*
Not 100% on Webberly. The rest sound good.
I will be using this chance to invite Goddard this week by any means possible.
Looks like Nason and Martin can join the dole que this week.
Maybe even Dangerfield if I need the cash to get there. These are ruthless times.
Montagna is going to come down a bit more after that 75. He’ll be a member of my Merv Gray Autos in two weeks.
Yeah thanks Chook great stuff mate
Out of Hanly Webberley and Sheppard who do you think is the best pick and who will stay in their respective teams the longest??
Clearly not Hanley! Tough call between the two – Webberley is a mature-age recruit who won Tassie’s Statewide league medal last year, while Sheppard has pretty big wraps on him.
I doubt Webberley will hold his spot with the amount of changes Richmond are making at the moment ????
aparently they like him there, and he could well hold his spot due to good performance, a jack grimes circa 2009?
Named on the wing has to be a good thing!
hopefull watts kicks 10 nd we have somthing good to say next week!
Downgrading Harry O’Bama (who is just chilling on my bench) to Webberley so I can get the big Cox (cos big mommy has to go) .
Webberley seems to be named in the centre, as he was last week, so hopefully gets more stats than a back.
Need some advice guys…..
I want to upgrade Martin to Swan next week but don’t have the coin. I have $179k and need $250k+.
What’s my best option:
1. Gumbleton (bench cover) to Jaensch,
2. P. Davis to Jaensch (only just gets me the coin)
2. Stratton to Roberton (Roberton looks on the outer)
I would advise to go Davis to Jaensch. Only because I think Gumby would be great to keep as your 8th Forward. If you have both Davis and Jaensch as your bench dudes, in 3 weeks time, they could both be out. At least Gumby will be played all year (if fit).
Thanks Warnie.
Inside info from the Crows. Davis has very good job security. He would have to play extremely poorly to get dropped.
Good to know. If its true.
If thats the case whats the latest on Dangerfield?
Should play, Crows rate him highly, need to get him back in asap.
guys how much would nason rise this week if he reaches his be? i think it was a few k but im not sure?
He won’t rise at all if he reaches his breakeven (57) – he’ll just, er, break even. I think you mean if he gets his average (62), then he’ll go up just $2k. A 70 would see him make about $4700 and an 80 would net about $8300, according to the awesome FFGenie. Most importantly, a really good score would push his BE back down.
We have a decision here.
Swan is in this week.
However the decision is between –
J.Trengove, K.Lucas, D.Martin.
I also am think Pav for Hall.
Thoughts?
Lucas has been outscoring Martin and I think has more price upside. Martin’s BE is close to his average. Haven’t been watching Trengove.
Pav should be awesome – Didak, Franklin and some others might be a good cheaper option if you don’t have them too.
Help me Warne Dawg!!
2 Choices…
1) Brennan out for Jaensch, Martin out for GAJ. Left with $90k, 11 trades. Will be playing Gumby and Rockliff this week though while Pods is out.
2) Brennan out for Didak (or maybe Franklin), left with $100k., 12 trades
I like option 2 but I NEED GAJ and sooner rather than later. If I take option 2 it will be very hard for me to get him in without trading out a pretty good player – like Selwood or possibly McKenzie if he picks up a bit more in price…
Option 2. Trades are gold. In my opinion, I don’t like ‘chasing’ Ablett if he is this expensive. Do you have Swan?
Yeah, Mids are;
Swan
Montagna
Barlow
Selwood
Mckensie
Lucas
Martin
Stupid cant get a game again Shuey
Once I get GAJ my mids are set. I know he’s ridiculously expensive though, but I’m 700 points behind first and each week I don’t have him feels like I’m drifting, even though my ranking is getting higher (1173 atm).
You reckon Didak or Franklin?
Dids all day.
Have you thought about maybe picking up Lenny Hayes and then looking towards another mid upgrade (your 6th playing midfielder looks weak – a complete team wouldn’t have one of those dudes playing , imo).
I’m a big fan of Hayes when he’s fit but I hadn’t really thought about him so far coz I’ve been focussed on Ablett which would mean McKensie would be my 6th mid and Lucas my sub.
If I trade Brennan for Didak though I can’t afford to trade Martin out for Hayes…
Are you suggesting just forgetting Ablett, getting Didak this week and then looking at a double trade later for hayes?
hey lads
should i get rid of Duncan or stick it out for a couple more weeks and hope he gets a game or 2 MAYBE?
i was thinking about Jaensch, If they are going to drop Burton and keep the young fellas in surely this is a good sign for the young fellas at Adelaide!
might hang onto Jetta he may become a season long bench player.
Danny hughes looks a good target but for next week!
most importantly cheers chook
No sweat, Leroy. I’m hanging on to Mitch for a bit longer, hoping that the Cats “rest” some more players shortly. Clearly he’s not far off, being first emergency this week and he’s still got that BE of -1. Keep the faith.
Whispers chappy could miss with a hammy(rested) and Duncan is first emergency…
Gotta flick Hall… what’s the better downgrade option????
Rohan or Jaensh??
Cmon guys help us out!!
Just wait until a better option comes along, Hall won’t move too much I wouldn’t think. Even if he does, better than having a no-game rookie worth crap all sitting on your bench the rest of the season.
Give Baz another go & hope he gets his average of 97 (at Manuka) against his old side.
Sure Sydney are the ” lock down,” kings but with Seaby & Mummy both out, & Minson back in, I’m hoping Bulldogs will dominate clearences and Bazza could be in for a good night.
I’m sticking with him, was going to trade him, but need cover for Pods.
I’m glad to see that research on Hall has got some legs!
Pav or Didak?
Who is keeping Brennan like me, still not certain that this is good idea with Hitchcock and Pods also in the forwards?
Trying to convince myself on Nason-Webberly, Hall-Pav
Can’t go past Pav for long term points contribution. But Didak is likely to make you some random points + cash. But I don’t think you should be getting him for that reason though. If you got the coin for Pav. Jump on.
Struggling on this one:
Hill -> Cox?
BE’s aren’t too bad, but after this week Cox will be drifting up and Hille down
Is Hille enough as a second ruckman?
14 trades left, tough call.
Hille*
Sandi is first ruck.
Exact same situation, 14 trades, have sandi and am contemplating going hille to cox. Would like some opinions on whether its worth the trade. I feel like Hille has pretty much peaked and will average 80 while Cox could average 100+. If I am gonna do it it has to be soon. Thoughts?
Kind of tempted to just leave it for another week, keeping in mind Cox still hasn’t *really* set the world on fire (108 was against Renouf) and will only be another 10k or so in it next week. Plus Hille has the two top scores out of them.
Hille is staying unless he drops back to averaging 50. To me sandi being the best one or two ruckman and hille 3rd 4th 5th even i will be happy with that
Good call – I am sitting on 17 trades left and was just about to pull the trigger on Hille – Cox until I read the last couple of comments and am now considering holding off one more week. But I still might come 530pm.
It’s a tough one – you are probably right in that Cox/Hille shouldn’t go up/down too much this weekend, but at the same time if you could have got Cox for $57k more than Hille at the start of the season you would have jumped on. I guess waiting that one extra week really just gives you another week to assess/avoid a cox injury, but at the same time you are maybe missing out on 40ish points like last week.
Does it look like there are many more mid rookies coming through. I will be looking to cash in trengove in the next few weeks. would i be better of to cash in trengrove now so he can be replaced for a decent mid rookie?
he does look like he might be able to achieve his BE for the next few weeks
Hanging on to silvagni and nason for one more week. The hope is that they will rise more then goddard, who is the target for these two. Webberly to come in for nason. Starting in the middle sounds good to me and 21 yo does it for me.
I know he is not a rookie but whats happened to robert warnock, would have thought he was number two (behind kreuzer). Is he going to be getting any more games or has he run his race??
yep I am holding off another week too – hopefully J-Webb can hold onto his spot in the Worst Team of All Time.
Am thinking of trading Ladson for Palmer. Is it a reasonable upgrade or too sideways?
gday.. new here.. how do u get an avatar picure?
just saw it under submit comment!
What’s going on with Relton Roberts these days? worst last-minute-before-lockout-trade ever! anyone know when he is likely to be back?
2011.
I got a huge problem this week guys, and I am hoping someone can help me out.
Team:
Back: Hodge, Malceski, Enright, Waters, Maguire, Gram, Gillbe…… Drummond, Davis
Mid: Stanton, Barlow, Bartel, Selwood, Cassisi, Boyd……..Banfield, Banner
Ruc: Clark, Hille…….Warnock, Bass
Fwd: Brown, O’Keefe, Betts, Giasuracusa, Rockliff, Grant, Gumbleton…….Podsiadly, Brennan
My issue is, that for the second week in a row, Clark and Warnock are not playing, which means I am down a player in the ruck. What I am thinking is, do I trade Drummond and say Davis, for a good Back like Lovett Murry or Drummond and say Maguire for Goddard, plus spare cash?
Or do I trade in a Ruckman who will actually play, e.g. Trade Drummond for a medium defender and trade clark to Cox or Sandi?
Or do I do something completly different, e.g. try to trade Selwood and Drummond to get Ablett and a random defender , make ablett capt and he can hopefully cover the loss of not playing a ruckman?
Any other trades or ideas anyone has would be greatly appreciated!!!
Thanks so much guys
Oh also thought of trading Clark to Jaymar, and then Drummond to Lovett-Murry
Get rid of clark for sure, I’d go to cox.
Yeah its a tough call mate. Do you have enough money to straight swap Clark?
No I didnt, I already made up my mind, because simply i didnt want it on my mind all day haha. What I did was trade Banner for Lewis Stevenson, with the cash I had plus little bit of cash from that trade I did Drummond to Lovett Murray.
Thus my backline is complete I think, baring any LTI, with 2 decent covers in maguire and davis if anyone goes down for a week or so.
Plus if Stevenson keeps getting games ive got decent cover in my mids with Banfield as well.
Next week I will look to my rucks! Considering trading Brennan for a cheapie forward such as Matthew Jaensch, then Warnock to cox!!, so would have hille and cox as my main to ruckmen with Clark as backup
The following week I plan to trade 2 of my fowards for Pav, mabye Rockliff and Gumbleton or something
By that stage I will have 8 trades, and plenty of cover in all positions and can bascially sit around and only trade if I get LTI.
What do people think of this plan? is 8 trades enough to sit on comfortably from round 11, and will that team get me anywhere? I am currently ranked 9000th or so but was 4000th a week ago, DAMN U CLARK FOR NOT PLAYING
Gents I need an opinion,
Option 1
M. Duncan or Dangerfield > Jaensch, Nason > Goddard. (Seeing as though I kept dangerfield this far would be a shame to flog him now but I’d sooner loose him then M.Duncan.)
Option 2
D. Martin > Lewis Stevenson, Nason > Goddard.
Not sure who has better job security.
I hear Stevenson is a pretty accurate kick. If so he would be the only mid for WCE with that attribute. Woosha would be happy for him to hang around and hope it rubs off.
I absolutely need Goddard in this round. Everyone else is moving forward and I seem to be slowing down. Damn lack of 3rd game virgins.
Apart from that I have’t seen Jeansch play at all.
Shallow pool of downgrades to select from this week which is a shame as the cash cows are FAT!
Roll on Round 11 where 2 Rooklie listed players can be elevated regardless of LTI’s. Watch everyone Strijk at a certain West Coast defender.
Looking for some opinions if people are happy to offer:
Backs: Hodge, Enright, Duffield, Grundy, Shaw, Dempsey, Maguire …….. Nason, Bower
Fwds: Gia, ROK, Daisy, JBrown, Betts, Hall, Phil Davis ……….. iPod, Roberts
Now as you can see from that I’ve had to put Phil Davis on the field which I’m not happy about. I’m also not happy about having Relton Roberts clogging up my bench. I’m also very dissapointed that all the research I did said that Bower was fine and then he was a late withdrawl and now not playing. So, I’m condering my options and would like peoples opinions:
Option 1
Go with team as above – doesn’t use any trades but has some risk with no bench cover
Option 2
Swap Grundy and Davis around so that Nason can play instead of Davis – again no trades but still no bench cover for those late withdrawls that seem to be my bane this season
Option 3
Trade Relton Roberts for someone – thinking Jaensch as he’s cheap and likely to keep his spot but he’s not a better scorer than Davis currently. I have 13 trades left for the season at the moment.
Would love peoples thoughts on these or better options if they’ve got them
Swapping grundy and davis still leaves you with no fwd bench cover, but lets you pick between davis and nason. So if you’d prefer nason on the field, swing them round.
I don’t like the sideways rookie trade much personally
Top stuff Chook. Always a good read.
Thoughts on Hille -> Cox?
Sideways trade or not?
hey everyone
lachie hansen –> webberly
brennan –> danny hughes
leaves me with $448k in the bank
next week go hitchcock –> pavlich
leaves me with pavlich and playing cover on my bench, plus around $100k in the bank leftover.
thoughts?
heres the toughest call to date for me.
Options
Hall to PAV – Only one for sure I’m doing.
Nason to Cornes?
Nason to Webberly
Nason to Hughes.
Don’t know why everyone seems to be jumping on Webberly this week – hasn’t he only played one game?
yeah crazy, I was talking about Webberly / Nason next week as a possibilty def not this week.
I need to get a rookie for Hall.
Should I get Jaensch, Hughes, Watts or Fyfe?
Please help!
Thinking of upgrading Barlow to Ablett, what do you guys think?