DT TALK 2010: Episode 6

Posted by Warnie on 12/5/10 • Categorised as Vidcasts

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After a week off, we are ready and raring to go for this weeks episode of DT TALK.

Highlights include:

See how we went this week – including Eliminator update. One of us went down!
We award the first Boag’s Draught Golden Stubby of the year.
We chatted to Luke Hodge last weekend about all things DT.
Calvin has a “Don’t Go There” moment.
What are we going to do with Jared Brennan?
Chopper’s Chopping Block

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791 Comments

FiveStar
May 12, 2010 • 7:05 am

nice episode (wrote this so no one does this first comment shit)
- Quanzo
  May 12, 2010 • 7:11 am
  
  haha nice. When I saw this video only had one comment I was almost sure it was going to being some idiot yelling FIRST!!!
- Keeny
  May 12, 2010 • 2:38 pm
  
  It was further good news for the Lions after scans yesterday revealed that midfielder Jared Brennan had not fractured his left fibula as the Club had initially feared.
First Dickhead to Say 3rd comment
May 12, 2010 • 8:04 am

3rd comment!
tkol
May 12, 2010 • 8:11 am

Nice episode guys.

How can i get in contact with you blokes i had someone on this sight blogging whilest i was on it with my name too!

Cheers
- Warnie
  May 12, 2010 • 9:33 am
  
  Get yourself a Gravatar (www.gravatar.com) and that will make you more unique!
  - tupperware
    May 12, 2010 • 6:58 pm
    
    Doesn’t seem to work for me..
    - Warnie
      May 12, 2010 • 6:59 pm
      
      Are you using the same email address?
      - tupperware
        May 12, 2010 • 7:35 pm
        
        I am.
        Is it right to sign in with the account I created here? Or do I create from scratch?
      - Warnie
        May 12, 2010 • 7:37 pm
        
        They are separate things, but if the email you have registered here is the email you attached a GRAVATAR to, then it should work!
      - tupperware
        May 12, 2010 • 7:41 pm
        
        alright, ill give it a go. cheers
      - tupperware
        May 12, 2010 • 8:14 pm
        
        cheers warnie!
roy
May 12, 2010 • 8:25 am

you heard it first from v8. http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/94088/default.aspx
brennan out as little as 3
- Blues_FC
  May 12, 2010 • 8:33 am
  
  Hahahahahha…..
  
  Hodgey was trying to f**k you over Warnie: “Get on Frankie”… The f**ker didn’t even play!!!!!
  
  Don’t trust him, he plays for Hawthorn. You can’t trust someone from a team that stole a premiership!
  - Blues_FC
    May 12, 2010 • 8:35 am
    
    Hmmmm…. Actually, that Hodgey clip is pretty old isn’t it? Did he say the Hawks were 1 and 3?
    - Warnie
      May 12, 2010 • 9:05 am
      
      It was from 3 weeks ago (when they were down here… they have stll only won one game though! Haha… but Hodgey is still smashing it.
      
      The game he was referring to was the North game. Buddy had 100 from memory.
  - Magpies4ever!!
    May 12, 2010 • 9:26 am
    
    Hawthorn might’ve stole a premiership, but at least they didn’t BUY one!!!! (1995 & runner up in 1999)
Dr. Calvin
May 12, 2010 • 8:41 am

Brennan 2/3 weeks now!
- Seeking the Heights
  May 12, 2010 • 9:03 am
  
  Clav, source mate? This will change alot, i dont mind holding him for 3, 6 i cant justify saving the trade….
  - Blue boys
    May 12, 2010 • 9:15 am
    
    Apparently that still depends on how well it responds in the first week. From what i read is that they are hopeful of 3, but sounds though they are not real sure at the moment. May have more idea next week………if you are prepared to hold him for one round.
  - Dr. Calvin
    May 12, 2010 • 11:52 am
    
    My source is… ME. I know everything
- Warnie
  May 12, 2010 • 9:04 am
  
  Oh boy. That might make me change my decision. Hmmm… Brennan worries me about how soft he must have been needed all of the happy gas on Saturday night.
  
  However, I have seen some performances like that before and the player has gone back on the ground (or court) minutes later).
  
  Back to the drawing board!
  - sPOrTz dOgg
    May 12, 2010 • 9:51 am
    
    When he does come back he needs a B/E of 132, so that looks highly unlikely so you might as well trade him out now b4 he’s price fall, if you have enough trades left.
    - Magic33
      May 12, 2010 • 11:41 am
      
      why would you trade him out purely on a potential price drop of 10K? If you’re trading out a player every time they have a high-ish BE you’ll very soon be out of trades
      - sPOrTz dOgg
        May 12, 2010 • 12:06 pm
        
        The fact is he’s not the best healer when it comes recovering for a injury. So when (If) he does come back he price will decrease in a large amount because of he’s lack of match fitness within the first 3 rounds of he’s return.
    - J Mc
      May 12, 2010 • 5:49 pm
      
      I’m not the famous grammar nazi, but Sportzdogg i don’t think you understand the difference between his and he’s…
      
      It’s not that hard.
- McScoundrel
  May 12, 2010 • 9:15 am
  
  I’m still trading him. Brisbane’s losses have coincided with him being tagged. Peeps who don’t like Brennan (or football, I can’t determine which one) will cite coincidence but for mine, he was Brisbane’s prime mover in the first three weeks. It was because of his ill-advised role change that he started racking them up again, but will he ever play in the ruck again??? All the evidence points to heavy tags from here on, but I hope I’m wrong.
  - Seeking the Heights
    May 12, 2010 • 9:23 am
    
    Im not 100% sure dude… But to be honest, the mroe i think about it, it does make sense to down grade brens and upgrade gumby or jetts to a gun…. Oh, i dont know what to do………….
  - tupperware
    May 12, 2010 • 7:01 pm
    
    He only played in the ruck while Clark is out..
sPOrTz dOgg
May 12, 2010 • 8:44 am

Voss ruled Mitch Clark (groin) out of Saturday night’s game, in the same article.
- Blue boys
  May 12, 2010 • 9:20 am
  
  Yes wot to do with Clark???? Have kept the faith with him early, now bout to miss 3rd game out of 8. Is improving but groins can be shit things to get right. Can see it being like Mitchell (who i also have), where it’s week to week proposition and he ends up misses 4!!!!! Can’t imagine he is that close either if Vossy has ruled him out already. Thoughts????
  - McScoundrel
    May 12, 2010 • 9:43 am
    
    Yeah, you can’t “fix” a groin during a season, you can only manage it. Hamstrings, groins, abdominal strains, often the root cause is similar and leads to interrupted seasons. Only significant rest can facilitate proper healing but even then problems can be exacerbated innocuosly.
Mark + Kick + Goal = :)
May 12, 2010 • 9:09 am

I thought you were gonna go Gia for the golden stubby…Howz his form been the past month!!, but J-Pod is def keeper now. By the way Roy love the Kobe shirt. :)
tkol
May 12, 2010 • 9:24 am

If you fell for Brennan again this season then you should look at your coaching process. You clearly havent learnt a thing in five years of Brennan teasing!
- Seeking the Heights
  May 12, 2010 • 12:07 pm
  
  I disagree dude. Its fair to have faith that a player can pull it together and grow/change… Several other players have done this, but havent failed so dont get a mention.
  - Blue boys
    May 12, 2010 • 12:39 pm
    
    Yeah that’s right, look at Mark Seaby………………….oops hang on a sec!!! :-)
Kelli Underwood
May 12, 2010 • 9:47 am

Great show. Can i come on next week?
- Herbz
  May 12, 2010 • 10:20 am
  
  HAHAHAHAHA!!!
- Blues_FC
  May 12, 2010 • 10:47 am
  
  NO.
  
  You’ll break the lens.
- Hillsey
  May 12, 2010 • 3:10 pm
  
  As long as you don’t talk!
Chartreuse
May 12, 2010 • 10:02 am

Shame the microphone is obscuring the “A” in the photo.

Am I the only one that would have got a chuckle out of “AsMania”?

Photo captions????

C: “Why have you got your hands behind your back?”

H: “The fags at the AFL have told us tackling with our hands next year will be considered rough conduct so need to practice keeping them out of the way.”
PieMan
May 12, 2010 • 10:10 am

Just look at Chops team and realise we almost have the same back 7. Only difference is he has Carrazzo and I have Hargrave :)
- steakandbeers
  May 12, 2010 • 11:20 am
  
  astonishing
  - FlyHigher
    May 12, 2010 • 11:44 am
    
    Separated at birth?
    - PieMan
      May 12, 2010 • 11:57 am
      
      we must have been ;) haha
      :P
wallcob
May 12, 2010 • 11:01 am

gold episode guys. im a bit unsure of guys like neon leon and hargrave. both proven guns last year and pretty much wont get any cheaper that what they are now. is it worth bringing them in hoping that they will find form? or are they just having average years. very unsure of whether to take the punt! only…..10 trades left!! i know, its DT sin.
- City Name Animal
  May 12, 2010 • 11:52 am
  
  trading out nason this week for cash then martin up to anyone, question is, swan or ablett?
  Swan will leave me enough to trade mcveigh up to a cheapish premium next week, but ablett won’t. But then again, ablett is ablett… this is the first fun choice i’ve gotten to make all season, all the rest of the trades have been forced by injuries/spuds (seaby… seriously why would anyone pick him ever)
  - City Name Animal
    May 12, 2010 • 11:54 am
    
    wasn’t actually replying to you dawg sorry
  - Fenno
    May 12, 2010 • 12:31 pm
    
    I am going to do exactly the same trade this week and like you not sure if I should grab Swan or Ablett. I was leaning towards Swan but then thought If I don’t grab ablett now while I have the money I may never have enough for him even if he does go down doubt he will drop much below 500,000
    - Albert Lloydd
      May 12, 2010 • 2:27 pm
      
      Ablett is never getting near 500K again this season.
  - baconb
    May 12, 2010 • 2:23 pm
    
    didn’t know you could trade a player out for cash… thought u needed to get another player… WHO IS THAT PLAYER
Spanner
May 12, 2010 • 11:58 am

Barlow needs a golden stubbie…
tkol
May 12, 2010 • 1:17 pm

Yeah yeah. Im gay
Wayne Swan
May 12, 2010 • 2:00 pm

Fantastic episode, liked the format for this one (always helps when the Hawks are in Launie I suppose for a player interview- any chance you could get in touch with the clubs and set up interviews via skype).

How many Golden Stubbies are there floating around? Or is there just the one for the overall winner?
ohoh
May 12, 2010 • 2:16 pm

Great episode fellas, I need help with my trades.
I have to get rid of Liam Anthony and Josh Drummond, i have about 70k in the bank. Im thinking of downgrading Drummond to a rookie say Silvagni and then upgrading Anthony to a Swan or something?
- Wik
  May 12, 2010 • 2:23 pm
  
  Anyone know why Silvagni didn’t play last week? Rested, injured or dropped?
  - ohoh
    May 12, 2010 • 2:54 pm
    
    yea i need to find that out before i trade, his name isnt on the injury list? surely he wasnt dropped
- baconb
  May 12, 2010 • 2:24 pm
  
  u dont already have silvani? WOW ROOKIE
  - McScoundrel
    May 12, 2010 • 2:36 pm
    
    Yeah but at least he’s worked out what the T button’s for now.
  - ohoh
    May 12, 2010 • 2:54 pm
    
    no i dont have silvagni, and i doubt you can call me a rookie sitting at 3,000th overall, drummond had done very well for me up until his injury
  - Random_Guy
    May 12, 2010 • 3:05 pm
    
    Why does that make him a rookie?? I’m assuming that means you do have him, what’s your ranking?
- Random_Guy
  May 12, 2010 • 3:02 pm
  
  Dude, you obviously need all the help you can get! So don’t get Silvagni (he was great value at $77k, but not any more), also Wik he has a minor injury which is why he missed the game on the weekend.
  
  There are only a couple of back rookies worth considering (one this week and one next week iirc), so if you want cash jump on them – i’ll let you figure out who they are, but in case you are not aware prices increase after their third game so jump on after 2 if you can.
  
  The trades you proposed sound ok, but it’s not possible to say unless you post your side (backs and mids at least) so people can see where the main defficiencies are and give you some advice. If you do want Swan though, i’d jump on this week, he has a breakeven (I’m assuming you know what that is) in the 80′s i believe, so this is as cheap as he’ll get all year imo.
  
  GL.
  - Albert Lloydd
    May 12, 2010 • 3:17 pm
    
    Could you be any more patronising.
thomas green
May 12, 2010 • 3:30 pm

going to upgrade hall this week. not sure who to pick, i can afford anyone except chapman. who do you think i should get? If i get pavlich it wont give me enough money to get swan next week, so i was thinking didak, or steve johnson?
- bingo bango
  May 12, 2010 • 3:39 pm
  
  Neon Leon for Brennan all the way…he is about to go off!!!
chris
May 12, 2010 • 3:41 pm

who is the best under 100k defender?PLEASE HELP ME HERE SOMEONE
- thomas green
  May 12, 2010 • 3:47 pm
  
  webberly from richmond
- bravo
  May 12, 2010 • 3:48 pm
  
  maybe webberley from richmond
Angus
May 12, 2010 • 3:46 pm

DRUMMOND > HARDGRAVE
BRENNAN TO DAVIS

WATA BOUT THISSS???
- McScoundrel
  May 12, 2010 • 4:12 pm
  
  No good.
- bingo bango
  May 12, 2010 • 7:11 pm
  
  Do it!!!!! if you like a punt then i think its worth a crack on two premiums who have been shit house…both can turn it around, im getting davis this week for brennan
Pato
May 12, 2010 • 3:46 pm

“While Brennan’s loss is a blow, initial fears of up to 12 weeks on the sidelines were unfounded with Voss hopeful he can push to return in as little as three weeks given the right response from his injured ankle in the coming days. “”

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/94088/default.aspx

Thoughts on keeping Brennan?
- PieMan
  May 12, 2010 • 3:51 pm
  
  keep him. i am.
Gazinator
May 12, 2010 • 3:50 pm

Not sounding good for old Bazza…

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/94127/default.aspx
- Pato
  May 12, 2010 • 3:55 pm
  
  Yer, thinking Brennan-rookie, Hall to Pavlich. Hm….tough one.
- McScoundrel
  May 12, 2010 • 4:11 pm
  
  All those wedgies, pacing the goalsquare and pointing to where he’d like the ball is taking its toll on Barry. He should stop worrying about how he ‘feels’ and take a bit of advice…Don’t just do something, stand there.
Wraygun
May 12, 2010 • 4:08 pm

Jonothan Brown look to be pretty good value for money atm, hopefully he dosnt get his BE of 105 and can afford to get him in next week for someone like hmmm, for who thats the question
Seeking the Heights
May 12, 2010 • 4:08 pm

Ok, opinions welcomed:

Im thinking of trading Brennan down to a low priced player then updrading either gumby to PAV/fwd Premium, or upgrading jetta to pav/swan/montagna/hayes etc..?

The thing is what fwd rooks are there to down trade to?
Rockliff has yet to peak and will play many games (games is more important than price) and Jarrad Grant is yet to peak and has settled into the side well.
Have i over looked anybody else? Matt Jaensch is very cheap (77,800) but may not play many games…. Danny hughes is also a solid option (94500)?
- McScoundrel
  May 12, 2010 • 4:22 pm
  
  Gary Rohan, scored 40 against Geelong…bear in mind that Bradshaw bagged 16, Goodes about 60 and ROK about 70. Job security is a bit of a concern.
- leegend
  May 12, 2010 • 4:52 pm
  
  Fyfe still has room to grow if he stays in the team.
  
  Polak if you like life on the edge…
Warnie
May 12, 2010 • 4:24 pm

In the haze of tiredness (and a couple of Boag’s Draught stubbies), I put Roy’s total points there rather than his ranking. His real ranking is 12,145. As if the superhero that is Roy would be over 14,000th?
- Braden
  May 12, 2010 • 10:14 pm
  
  hey warnie my ranking is 12145
Wraygun
May 12, 2010 • 4:27 pm

My DT week
Monday: Look at what guns have dropped in price.
Tuesday: If injuries or really bad form sus out trades
Wednesday: Look at who will be captain this week
Thursday: If a player is dropped unexpectedly, find out why then maybe if out for 4weeks + sus out trade.
Friday: Make trades :D
Theres other stuff in there aswell but this is the main outline
- olivebj
  May 12, 2010 • 5:01 pm
  
  awesome what are you eating for breakfast wednesday
  - Young GUNS
    May 12, 2010 • 5:31 pm
    
    HAHAHAHA
    
    Noice Wun
Fapmyster
May 12, 2010 • 4:51 pm

Going to downgrade drummond to a rookie this week, then with the 60k i already have in the bank upgrade either martin to swan or zeibell to pav. Then just one more upgrade next week and my team should be set
- red
  May 12, 2010 • 5:11 pm
  
  i doubt your team is set for the rest of the year…
McScoundrel
May 12, 2010 • 4:54 pm

Does anyone have any ideas on Geelong’s forward structure now that Stokes is due to return to the team (and Rooke has been sidelined)? Specifically, are the small forwards (Chapman, Johnson, Byrnes, Stokes, Varcoe, Duncan) likely to be rotated?
- Timmy
  May 12, 2010 • 11:43 pm
  
  Chapman seems to be predominantly playing as a midfielder. Probably half the reason his scores have been so high, coupled with the home game dominance against Richmond, Sydney & Port…
what
May 12, 2010 • 4:56 pm

guys what are your thoughts on these trades?
Trading Hall to jaensch this week which leaves me just enough to get in dane swan for dustin martin
or doing Hall to hughes which leaves me just short of dane swan and then next week i trade nason to webberly then i get swan? with my left over cash i might upgrade balla too
bandito
May 12, 2010 • 5:03 pm

why is everyone pulling their dick over weberly and jeansch, they’l probably play a max of 5 games each
Gazinator
May 12, 2010 • 5:05 pm

Too early to be setting your teams in stone yet people. Of course if there are bargains by all means go for it but we’re only 35% through the season. If you’ve missed a gun either wait for him to drop or get someone else.

DT is cruel sometimes, really comes down to timing (Rookie peak vs. Gun bargain). Expect that sometimes you just can’t have your cake and eat it :-)
the zohan
May 12, 2010 • 5:20 pm

f**k off turtle
- the zohan
  May 12, 2010 • 5:21 pm
  
  (his comment just got deleted) ….rightly so
Samsa
May 12, 2010 • 5:44 pm

guys may i ask what happened? i couldnt log into my account so i registed again and now i got some crappy long password.
- Warnie
  May 12, 2010 • 5:48 pm
  
  You can change it. Just log in and click on “dashboard”.
  
  We have turned on the login thing because of quite a few unsavory comments that keep popping up on the site. Quite a few things we have concerns over. We don’t want to have to moderate this place, but we don’t want some of the rubbish that has been posted by people.
  
  We have had a couple of emails from people and also a phone call from an advertiser, so can people keep this a sociable place?
  - the zohan
    May 12, 2010 • 6:09 pm
    
    good call warnie, ill try to watch the language
juddy69
May 12, 2010 • 6:12 pm

im down 7 trades
is a straight swap hall for leon good ar bad??
Samsa
May 12, 2010 • 6:12 pm

Hey all, i have a question.
i will be trading hall this week and i have a two options to who

option one
Hall > Jaensch which then lets me do
Martin > Swan

option two
Hall > Danny Hughes
then i have to wait a week to do
Martin > Swan
patto
May 12, 2010 • 6:19 pm

i have started the season horribly at 0-4 (even though i am 4th to top in total points)
anyway i need to win this week and am looking at a double trade
i have $56,800 in the bank to help me

as Water’s break even is 104 this week it looks like it is a good time to take him out
not sure who i can downgrade him to, only one that comes to mind is Sheppard from WCE
please tell me if you know a better option

so after that i have 2 options

OPTION 1: upgrade Martin/Bastinac to almost any premium except Ablett

OPTION 2: upgrade Nason to Goddard

option 2 would leave me with this back line:

Hodge, Goddard, Enright, Broughton, Grimes, Gram, Hargrave (Maguire, ??)

let me know if you have any advice or if you think it is a good/bad trade
- the zohan
  May 12, 2010 • 6:21 pm
  
  both options are solid, the goddard trade would leave you with a strong defence but there are alot of fallen premiums in the mids (as there will always be)
  - patto
    May 12, 2010 • 6:28 pm
    
    yeah i couldn’t really go wrong either way
    
    my only problem is who to downgrade Waters to
    i want a player i could leave on the bench for the rest of the season just as cover but there doesn’t really seem to be anyone that will be able to do that
    - sgi86
      May 12, 2010 • 6:33 pm
      
      Jeromey Webberley could hold a spot for the Tigers. Hardwick will soon enough write the season off and having already dropped McGuane (only for him to come back in as an emergency) and with the unreliability of players like Mitch Farmer, will resort to blooding youngsters (ie: Webberley, Grimes, etc.).
      
      He is only $89k and is definately on my radar for a Nason downgrade next week (no need for me to trade at all this week).
      - jigojitoku
        May 12, 2010 • 9:33 pm
        
        Waters isn’t doing that bad, surely he isn’t the most pressing problem in your team!
        
        I’d lean towards the mids. Especially with the some cheap prospects there.
Andy
May 12, 2010 • 8:51 pm

Did the Ipod die?
- Warnie
  May 12, 2010 • 8:59 pm
  
  All good! Tough thing it is! Has copped a beating over the years!
Patto.
May 12, 2010 • 9:47 pm

Geez…

Hargrave, Enright, Kelly, Malceksi, Hodge, Waters, Maguire…..Nason, Davis
Bartel, Selwood, Stanton, Ball, Barlow, Howlett…..Martin, Shuey
Cox, Sandy :) Trengrove, Warnock
Gia,Higigns, Brown, ROK, Brennan, Hall, Pods…..Balla, Hitchcock

8 trades down. Clueless on what to do with Brennan.

Few options:
1. Leave Brennan
2. Brennan-rookie, Maritn-Swan (this will leave Hall and Balla starting in forwards)
3. Brennan-rookie, Nason-Goddard (this will leave Hall and Balla starting in forwards)
4. Brennan-rookie, Hall to Pavlich (leaves enough $$ for Maguire-Goddard in a few wks)
George Templeton
May 14, 2010 • 1:16 pm

A don’t go there and a top chop! I bloody love it!

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