Chopper’s Wish Comes True
Now you Seaby, now you don’t! It seems chopper has got his wish in regard to Chopping Mark Seaby, albeit in a less violent way. As bad as it sounds, I now have a great excuse to trade him out. The last three weeks I have wanted the big guy out of destROY but have not been able to justify the trade. Now however I have no choice. Don’t get me wrong, I am happy for Mark, he has found a great home at a genuine contender and is playing his best footy. DTTALK wishes him the best of luck in returning for the finals, as long as its only with the Swans, and not our teams…… isn’t that right Warne Dawg. Here is some of his injury report from the legends at afl.com.au
SYDNEY Swans ruckman Mark Seaby will miss up to 12 weeks after scans revealed he required surgery to repair an ankle injury sustained against the Brisbane Lions on Saturday night.
Seaby hobbled off the field after the opening ruck contest against the Lions, effectively leaving the Swans with 21 men for the remainder of their 20-point win.
He will undergo surgery on Tuesday, leaving Swans coach Paul Roos to choose between forward Jesse White and rookie Mike Pyke as candidates to join Shane Mumford in the ruck against Geelong this weekend.
Sincere best wishes with the recovery Mark! but no thanks for the sausage (1 point) on Saturday night. Actually, we will call him bangers and mash from a DT perspective from now on. The sausage, combined with his spud scores.
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Stoked he already got the chop from my side before his disgusting score of 1
Not even shit enough to have a donut… a bloody sausage (good call Amanda).
NASON > ROBERTSON (f**king awesome Warnie… geez).
then
SEABY > COX
Man I hate this game!
I have to do it as well, this one really hurts me.
This brings me down to 13 trades, I really didnt want to have to pull the trigger like this.
On the other hand I can finally sleep at night an not worry about bloody seaby pulling in 20′s.
How is Robertson’s job security???
I don’t think it’s any good… but not a lot of options. Unless I dump Bastinac for someone – would be nice if Howlett gets named this week. Unlikely though!
I don’t know who Robertson is?
Thinking Gumbleton or Hall – Fyfe
Robertson is a 89K defender who played on the weekend for Freo
Pretty sure it’s Roberton (i.e. there’s no ‘s’)
what about even Hams? He’s risen already but you could still pick him up for 120k and is only 30K more than Robertson, Hams seems to have good job security with the injuries WCE has.
Not so sure with Shuey, Butler, Cockie and Nicoski returning soon.
Is he related to Dylan Roberton?
Roflcopter, cockie and nicoski are already fit, just cant get a game. Butler is a halfback and shuey is a midfielder. Hams is a half forward/crummer. His spot is secured
Warnie means Roberton! As some of Fremantle’s rookie list player are forced back onto the list, Deboer, Van Berlo, Pearce ect, a player like Roberton may get a decent stint in the 1′s. Hopefully
I’m going a double this week the above and than Bastinac to Swan.
Haha… oops, yep! That’s him. Will wait and see what the week holds!
Howlett was named in the best again for the Bendigo Bombers so theres a chance, but seen as they pumped the hawks, it would be very unlikely he could force his way into a winning side.
Although if Welsh gets rubbed out you never know.
Howlett should be named this week. He was best on for Bendigo on the weekend and was in the best last week. Hopefully Welsh gets a few weeks!
Dominated in the magoos on the weekend. No doubts about him being ready to come back after a def best on ground.
Yeah given welsh copped a 4 match suspension and dyson is out for 4-6 weeks with a knee injury i would say howlett should come in this week for essendon
I think Fyfe has better security if you have a fwd target to downgrade to, otherwise there’s not much around at the moment. I’m hoping Howlett gets a game and Sheppard shouldn’t be too far away for the Eagles.
Theres also Jaensch for the crows in the fwd line.
Sheppard was best on for East Fremantle. Had 25 touches and apprantly killed it!
im going hall to fyfe and then seaby to cox. make me some money to
warnie, i got 300 k in the bank from last weeks trades, should i go seaby to tippet and either mckenzie or selwood to swan? or i can do cyril to didak??
Don’t get Tippett whatever you do. Get Cox, Sandi, or H-Mac and then go from there.
Get Hille, he is gun.
Haha thanks. Im just good like that.
Don’t you mean Roberton as in Dylan Roberton from freo? I reckon he will hit double figures in games this year could be a good downgrade. Harv’s has sung his praises for a while now.
Not to rub salt into the wound, but did you notice Clarke is starting to hit some form? 80′s are decent without setting the world on fire, but with the price drop could be a good back trade from Seaby. Although that would hurt two trades burnt to end up with the same player you had in your original squad!
No Seaby for me in Dream Team. Just the one trade:
HUNT > HAMS, 312K in the kitty
Warnie, are you doing Robertson this week or last week? Why not get Phil Davis or Hams if last week?
that will mean big mummy will score higher!
it didn’t this week…
i almost got him in for hille…….I owe myself a beer for not doing it.
lucky i went seaby -> cox lat fri
wasnt sure it was gonna pay off, now i reap the rewards. just for the others, is mitch clark a good option?
Imagine – Seaby to Clarke, back to Seaby…….
niceee
How is Robertson’s job security???
im in definate need of chooks rooks right now, how should i dowgrade, nason silvangi or gumby
Same problem here.
It’s either Nason, Gumby, Martin
Get on Jamar
would it be a good idea to trade him for Nic Nat?
plain and simple NO!
Now is probs not the time to get NicNat – since he appears to have levelled out to an ave of 65-70. You will get exactly what you pay for, which is only okay if you’re paying $400+K
heaps lucky i traded him out last round for cox, but now it feels like i loaded up in the rucks a bit much with Sandi my no. 1. whether i shouldve gone with hille will be answered depending if he gets suspended or not
VOSSIES BEST TRADE EVER………BRADSHAW TO FEV…
Forgive me, but do you mean Roberton from Fremantle? I don’t want to get caught up on the whole spelling issue, but as far as I knew there’s no Robertson playing AFL at the moment.
*know
Oh the irony.
Is Clark to Cox a sidwayes trade, i see mitch average around that 75-80 mark, cox should average around the 95 mark.
too sideways for my liking! waste of a trade
Agreed Warnie
What about Nic Nat -> Cox?
If you have stuck with Clark until now, why on Earth get off him just when he’s coming good? Your other ruck must be Sandi, in which case, give your rucks a tick and look to improve elsewhere…
I traded seaby out for cox last week
im quite happy about that decision.
FYI
headland has been put on the LTI for freo so i assume that means 1 less rookie to be dropped
Looking to upgrade a back to a premium…
Already have the likes of goddard, enright, hargrave (cough), and hodge…
As much as I don’t want to jump on someone that i perhaps have already missed the boat on… Gilbee seems a reasonable option, still a 30k rise expected next week…
What other good options are there?
Chad Cornes.
Bastinac is the first cow ready to be milked. BE of 68 coming up this week.. time to jump on gibbs!
Just looking into Freo’s injuries and Roberton, I’m staying away and foretting the extra 30K to get Hams.
Look at Freo’s injury list:
Suban – Return This week?
Ruffles – Round 7 return
Grover – Round 7 Return
Thornton – Round 7 Return
Headland – Round 8 Return
No way I’m going near Roberton when Freo’s good players come back into the side
wouldnt say many of them are that “good”
haha yea. But Grover, Headland, suban, Thornton are all in the best 22 for Freo…..so 4 have to go, Roberton will probaley be one
Grover and Suban are the only ones who will be pushing into that side
I don’t like Roberton’s chances, although he played well he only got a game because the Eagles went really tall for the Derby
You have Tarrant, Mcpharlin and Silvagni / Grover who will take the talls and Mcphee and Johnson who can move back
mcphee is should be playing in the wafl. wouldnt be suprized if he’s dropped within 3 weeks. a lot of those guys wont go straight back in to side through wafl first and roberton will be the first to go with de boer
Mcphee played well and provided a target at half forward in a forward line full or relatively skinny guys eg Mayne and Michael Johnson
De Boer is loved by the Freo coaching staff for his attack on the ball
and there is no way scott thornton could get into freos best 22 i might add
im not a freo expert okay
But what im saying Roberton chances of staying in the side are very slim
how many trades is everyone keeping for injureys this year
depending on how many come in the next couple of weeks 6-8
although come finals if i havent used them they will turn to upgrade trades obviously
its just i really want to dtart upgrading now but not get injury struck at the end
well do some upgrades but just make sure you have some left!!!!!!! dont go crazy either
I’m keeping 6 for injuries but luckily I’ve already used 3 of those so I’ll only get another 3 injuires all season!
i have used one of my designated injury trades (Voldt) i have sat through boyd mitchel stanton shaw all taking time off which has been annoying especially this week seeing massive scores and i had 2 donuts
4
hall is getting the chop this week from my team, in comes didak, sj, or boomer
didak is the front runner at the moment i would be happy with him averaging 80 with a 100 thrown in rather then halls 50 with a 100
need to wait for the teams and who goes back onto the rookie list for freo to work out who.
Why in the f**k get did goose cop 2 f**ken weeks for. FUCK.
just saw this on afl website, one week if he pleads guilty so not that bad but still sucks
one week if he fights it, one week if he does not. What would you do?
hall out for fyfe a bad idea, leaving pods on the field?
If you’ve got Pods you SHOULD be playing him but Grant (Bulldogs) should be considered before Fyfe for mine.
Pods should play every game as geelong have no decent big forwards, but he is also suseptible to injury as he’s 28 and probably not used to the pace of the game.
WHO is the best cheap defender allready got kennaly, malceski and magiure
Well if i didnt have to start saving trades, I’d grab Hargrave assuming he plays. Shocking start to season so has dropped to $290K or so…108 against the Saints rnd 6 however.
seaby was a shocker anyway
Hopefully with Seaby out, Mummy will start getting bigger scores (yes I had both Swans as my rucks).
So…who to trade Seaby for? I can’t afford Sandi, and Im not too enthused about Cox….I’m thinking Jamar or Brogan? Roughly same avg as Cox but almost $100G cheaper.
Thoughts between those two…or alternatives?
cox easily his average is low because of the start of the season look at form as well
cox last 3; 99,102,93
jamar last 3: 71,82,86
brogan last 3: 59,80,92
Thanks, but like i said, not really interested in Cox.
then don’t ask for anyone’s opinion then. cox is easily the best option.
must not be interested in winning either with that shitty ruck duo and a lack of interest in cox. but good luck!
I am interested in winning Im just not very good at it as it happens.
Pecky…piss off. You dont own what I can and cant do.
You are asking for help. Don’t ask for it, reject it and then abuse people for pointing out that you do, indeed, suck.
I will try to help. Feel free to swear at me for it. You should look at more than the last three weeks’ scores. If you look at, at the very least, all of this year, and preferably last year as well, you will see that Brogan is a hack, while Cox is a jet. The pair of them have decent scores in the past two weeks, but one of them is a chance to keep that up, and one of them is no f**king chance whatsoever. You guess which one.
To be fair he did only ask for people’s thoughts on Jamar or Brogan
What about grant from the bulldogs! then buy a good ruck? is there any other forward/ruck then tippett?
Only Lobbe.
SILVAGNI OR NASON
WHO IS BETTER AND WHO WILL PLAY MORE GAMES?
both will play most, i think Silvagni has more DT potential, mind Nason has been pretty steady
The thing I love even more than the way you post the same question in multiple threads is your use of capital letters. You are a real asset to the forum
headland is out for 8weeks so silvargni will stay on the senior list, ROBERTTTTTTTTTON will get dropped for suban no doubt, fyfe will hold his spot this week but needs to play well to keep it because grover can play forward.
Welsh out for 4 = Howlett will get a couple of weeks to make me some cash. sweet.
Is Hille the new velvet sledgehammer? a commentator will have to come up with a name for him soon. Opposition players must crap themselves when he is coming into a marking contest.
its good for my dt he somehow cant get suspended which im loving
What are the rules regarding Rookies? I am really confused about all that.
What happens if a rook is in the side, but then players come back from Long Term Injury Lists? Is he then forced to return to VFL? A clear explanation or a link to somewhere I can find one would be great.
Cheers guys
If a rookie is upgraded for a LTI, then they have to go back down as soon as the LTI starts playing again, even if it is in the VFL.
Yes! Welsh out for 3or 4! Now Howlett is looking good for a call up! Hopefully Maguire takes an early plea and just gets 1 week.
Most likely, Welsh 3 and Maguire 1.
This means:
Jetta – Howlett
Seaby – Cox
However that will mean my mids bench will be Howlett and Shuey. Little concerning if Shuey doesn’t return this week.
Certainty for next week unless his injury is worse than what the Eagles have led on (good possibility it’s a 4-6 week injury in total). With Masten out though you can be assured he’ll play again and go up.
Not happy with Balla being reported again, looks like he is a real hot head. Just as well he got off…
Not quite sure weather to wait a week for Roberton as a downgrade option for Nason (as in trade him this week or next) or should i wait for another rookie to get a shot and hope Nason keeps getting his BE
Roberton is a poor option, will get dropped. Keep waiting for someone to come along….Howlett looks good in mids.
Have 40k in the bank
Need to trade Masten and Seaby (had from start) out this week
Want Cox or H Mac in for Seaby
Who is a good option to replace Masten?
Have 17 trades left
Masten-Howlett
Seaby-Cox
If you’ve got 17 trades left I’d look at a downgrade for Masten, but otherwise hop on Joel Selwood, Swan, or Didak. Seaby -> Cox is a no brainer.
How about Rhys Palmer? Wait and see how he goes next week though…
Yes if you think you’ll run out of the cash to get the premiums you want in midfield, Rhys Palmer is the last good mid-priced midfield option. But I wouldn’t call him an underpriced premium, will average 80 for the season I reckon, maybe a little better.
The ones to watch are sheppard in the backs and gary rohan in the forwards. Sheppard should come in this week and play for the remainder of the year. Rohan also looks very close to a call up.
sheppard will play 2 3 games and be in the wafl for the rest of the year
Agreed. And Rohan is $137k, a little pricey for a “downgrade.” Trent Dennis-Lane interests me more, but for mine the last good downgrade options in the forward line go up after this week, in Grant (Bulldogs) and Fyfe (Dockers).
Anyone agree with Seaby to Hille? I had him at the beginning of the season and then traded him out for seaby end of round 2 cause I had to listen to you dumbasses didnt I haha. Ill do that then Ball to Cross. This sucks cause if I stayed with Hille from the beginning I could have got Swan this week!
2 sideways trades? not good.
Ball is set to go up in value also…
We need a name for this diabolically bad trade strategy – trade 1 Player A>Player B, trade 2 Player B>Player A. Anyone?
If it was me, and I was dumb enough to bring in Seaby (in my case, it would have been for Clark), I’d draw the line at re-recruiting the guy I ditched him for – I’d be going up to Cox/Sandi, or getting Hille. If it was Hille, I’d be going Cox/Sandi or Clark. Just couldn’t face the reality I’d used two trades for no difference to my side
Haha, that is cruel Ingoes. I think we should call it the AzzDawg. Can I smell something burning? Ball to Cross…hmmm…to Ball again? Cross is handball happy, he doesn’t like kicking, he feels better when Griffen’s sniffing around for the cheapie. First suggestion: toast-scraping. The bread is ok but you decide you want toast, you f**k that up, burn it, scrape the black bits off and you’re left with something you’ll eat but isn’t satisfying at all. That’s what humble pie tastes like. The whole process reminds me of people who cook steak on the bbq by constantly turning it over. You look at them and think, Fucking hell, just leave it there, have a beer, wait for a bit of blood to surface then turn it over and when its nearly ready, shout out for the glad wrap to come off the salads.
How about “Bruce Banner-ing”?
OR “Jeckyll & Hyde-ing” (& then seeking again)
Jeckyll and Hydeing, haha, that’s it.
OK dream team and cooking lesson learnt, even though that im a keen footy supporter and a chef… Note to self, no more side trades
Seaby > Cox
or
Seaby > Hille
Cox unless you’re really low on cash.
hopefully my big screw up of a pick jesse white can do a 2009 mitch clark now
Not gonna happen
Well I got burnt by Seabitis, now have 3 options:
1. straight swap for Nic-Nat or Ivan Maric
2. double trade, Rioli to young bullies Jarrad Grant and then Seaby to Cox
3. don’t trade and hopefully either Jordan Roughead or Robbie Warnock get a game this week to fill the No2 ruck spot.
???
I like option 2. I think Cox is in great form and bottomed out last week so hop on now or never, and Grant is a good downgrade option, possibly the best of the forward downgrade options remaining but consider Fyfe too.
Nason is my ripest cherry to go chasing Cox also, but if Maguire can’t get off then I’d have to trust Davis to start.
After that my only real issues would be Hall and JZ. Will Mitchell and Ablett both get a game this weekend?
you would assume Mitchell and Ablett will start, but who really knows?
JZ has become an issue for me too. But i’m not terribly keen on the downgrade options this week.
truth.. the only real tasty option is Grant, but with Gumby not ready to go, that boat looks like it has. So gotta really be Nason for Roberton, I think Maguire compliments my stellar back line too well to ditch for a fair bump
Dunno why you’d worry about Davis starting if you picked him up last week… it’s only your 7th defender.
hey peoples
im stuck on some options YES i am a dickhead and picked up Seaby
i have 102K in the kitty
planned trades before the carnage were Silvagni to Hargrave
and
Gray to Didak
but Gray pulled out a blinder so that trades of for now.
and i HAVE to get Seaby out! so im guessing Hargrave may get away from me this week!
i have to Downgrade one of Maguire(really want to keep for the season) Silvagni, Martin, Trengove (both Martin and Trengove still have cash in them, Duncan and Gumby.
any help would be awesome
of course i will wait until friday to trade but need some advice now to calm me down
cheers
Hargrave won’t be going far this week, I reckon youcan give him a week.
Cox is looking like a good pick for seaby, so the other trade would best be a downgrade, tho the options are pretty slim this round, so maybe howlett if he is named.
yeah mate i forgot about Jetta i have him to and i think he has probably maxed out!
If Howlett is named i will go Jetta to Howlett and Seaby to Cox
im thinking thats the way to go
Jetta’s definately you’re selling option but I think Cunnington is coming up to his 3rd coming and probably better job security than Howlett.
Any news on mithcell or boyd ??? if not im gonna trade one of them for swan! Thoughts??
Anyone trade in Rioli and Brennan earlier this season like I did? Will either come good or are they destined to pull 60s for the rest of the season and really shit me off?
I got Brennan. He won’t get tagged every week, I hope. Needs to learn to break one.
Never sideways trade a premium unless its a season ending injury. Both will be back very soon, hang tight.
Don’t be silly. They’re both great players and Boyd should definately be back this weekend. But do monitor Mitchell, it’s a persistant hamstring complaint, tendonitis I heard it called on the news.
Sideways trade mate not a good idea.
Is Ottens to Cox a bad move? Or should I swap Kreuzer for Cox?
Ottens to Cox is a GREAT move, definately don’t sell Kreuzer!!
I take it doing Ottens -> Cox you’ll have Cox & Kruz as your starters? Fantastic combo if so.
Well this is defiantly the way I’m going now, due to Ottens being out for 8 weeks.
Gotta love that extra bit of justification when you’ve already made your mind up on the transfer
Ottens out for 6
any thoughts on hille>cox???
lucky for me i traded him out last week for Coxy!
Not lucky for you, Hille will still rise another $50k over the next couple of games, and Cox will go up significantly less than that, so by pulling the trigger early you cost yourself a lot of money! Hang on Kenjo, and the trade will only cost you ~$50k in 2 weeks.
Not to mention the points you lost this week……………
Although now i’m getting the feeling you are talking about Seaby………….and that was good luck. If it was me though i would call it good management!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s 2:50am & I’m thinking Armitage > Howlett and I’m knowing, Seaby> Cox!!!!
I had to watch an interview with Ross Lyon talking up Armitage during the NAB cup!
And the f**ker gives Geary more TOG, all year. ( well 6 rnds)
Thinking I may as well make $ from Armitage and subbing Banfield onto ground and Howlett/Shuey as I/c.
Then just have to worry about upgrades as $s won’t be an issue!
Got 280k in the bank can upgrade hitchcock for ROK or gia
ROK
Agreed, I have both in my team but if I had to pick one it’d be ROK without a doubt. Gia’s been gunning it the last couple of weeks, but he’ll (unfortunately) be pushed further forward again once their midfield is back at full strength, which will probably happen this week.
I have HMac and Hille as my ruck combo.
HMac isn’t going anywhere. Should I look to upgrade Hille to Cox? I’m not sure if a trade and 100k or so is worth an extra 10-15pt average each week (considering I’ve already used 5 trades)? And that average is still only a guess.
As much as I would like Cox in my team I think I can stick out the rest of the season with Hille and upgrade elsewhere – what do people think?
Your rucks are as good as any combo going around!
Remember there should still bit a bit of doubt on Coxy’s scores- in the past Seaby was his back up, therefore Coxy would get max TOG, but with nicnat?!?!
IMO not worth the risk and the $100,000 you could upgrade elsewhere.
NicNat will get more TOG than Seaby did, no doubt.
But… The q stick used to help in the ruck, no more….
And… Cox and NicNat will often both be on the ground.
Cox has done it (play and score consistently in his accustomed role) the last three weeks. NicNat filled in well while Cox was getting back to fitness, will now be backup ruckman/casual ruckrover. I’m jumping from one to the other this week
What about Nic Nat -> Cox this week?
Similar spot to me, I have Hille & Sandi (yay B)). I’m contemplating Helle>Cox, but thankfully Hille is rising in value faster than Cox atm, so it buys me a few weeks to make a decision. That also means if injuries or better prospects come up elsewhere, I can fix those instead, and I’m not going to be too sad about living with Hille for the whole season if that’s how things pan out.
I have Sandi and HMac and HMac has been puss this year
I reckon you mean pus. Not to be a spelling nazi, but you are referring to a completely different thing there
Same boat as Burylicious any thoughts
What about Andrew Raines – Hardgrave. Will only cost me 30k and hardgrave should only go up from here… and Raines is just puss and nearly leveled out.. Is it too side ways tho? Help warnie
or i also have Nason, but once again sideways.. FFgenie isnt working either so i dont know breakevens?