Deck of Dream Team 2010: Dane Swan
Name: Dane Swan
Club: Collingwood
Position: Midfielder
2009 Average/Games: 119.1 / 22
Predicted 2010 Average: 115
Deck of DT Rating: Ace of Spades.
Why should I pick him?
Dane Swan was the premium of all premiums last year. Lock in captain any week. He has been an elite dream teamer since 2006 with 3 years of scores just over the 100 average then smashing the crap out of that last year. Swannie does everything right, prefers to kick over handballing – and doesn’t give a crap about his efficiency, as outlined last year by Port Adelaide coach Mark Williams. He will also chime in with goals, last year kicking 17… very handy adding that to his 40+ possession games. He only had 5 scores under 100, and his lowest of 79 wasn’t even disgusting. He doesn’t often attract a tag, and when he does, will still knock up a decent enough score. He’ll be playing DT2010 as a 26 year old, perfect for Dream Team and is a very durable bloke – the last three seasons he has played every game. Really, he is the ultimate Dream Team player, not a lot of risk and he is certain to be in the top couple of midfielders at the end of the year. This won’t happen, but if he is named as a forward like he was in the All Australian team – lock-and-friggen-load the inked up man.
Why shouldn’t I pick him?
It’s going to be hard to find any reason not to pick him. Sometimes his work rate for a big 4 point tackle lacks, and could take a few more marks. But really, he is still one of the better midfield picks in the league with that. The main reason you wouldn’t pick him will be his price tag. Swannie will be priced at 119 points per game… that’s massive. He finished 2009 with a price of $433,500. But with the new magic number, inflation, etc, we’ll see a price tag of well over $500K. FanFooty has him priced at over $550K. Hmm… that has to be a turn off. Especially with thoughts on structuring your team. If you wanted him, you may have to play a lot of rookies/cheap players on your ground just to have Swannie there. Another reason why you shouldn’t pick him, is that 119 points is a massive amount of points to average to keep your price that high. He is certain to come down in price, well… I’m 98% sure he will anyway. So, hopefully the timing can be right making some money off some cash cows and upgrade to Swannie when his price slides down enough.
Final thoughts.
For me, Swannie won’t be a member of the Warne Dawgs for Round 1. As much as I would love to have him as my walk up captain for those first few weeks, already now in December, I am confident my team structure won’t allow it. Hopefully seeya in Round 10, Swannie!
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I selected Swannie for the first time from round 1 last year, and boy did he give me some love. I selected him last year because I thought he was durable, had upside (could get more TOG) and was a “cheaper premium”. Thanks swannie. This year however, I think he is too expensive. Someone like Jimmy Bartel is 50k less. Would rather look at Jimmy as a lock and leave captain, and keep the 50k. Will be all over Swan in round 8-10 though hopefully for 100k less.
I would not touch him first up. It only takes one bad game for his price to come down which would offset one of your cash cows. Better as an upgrade.
I agree with you 100% there, I will not be touching him for my initial squad same goes for Ablett and Montagna. I can see just as good captain choices in Jimmy Bartel, Bryce Gibbs or Lenny Hayes and all these players should be a fair bit cheaper.
I won’t be touching him unless his price falls. Give me little Gazza any day.
Here’s looking at you kids.
Swan is expensive, but if he can consistently score more than other mids, isnt he worth the extra cost so you have a reliable captain every week? The extra points you would have earned this year if you had him as captain from round 1would have added up to a few hundred by years end compared to almost every other player (Montagna was the closest being only 188 points behind him). And didn’t he have minor surgery last preseason? If he did, there’s no reason why he cant maintain/improve his form this year.
Thats exactly what i’m thinking. I can’t find another player that’s going to come close to him in Total Points. Ablett won’t play 22. I can’t see Bartel averaging as much. Hayes is 30 and won’t average as much. Montagna won’t average as much. Sure he’s more expensive, but I want to have the best player to lock and load as Captain from the Start.
Too expensive to start with for mine
luke ball coming into the side might change the midfield structure, he might take away some of the hard ball gets and ball wont get a tag. plus i had 200 on swan for the brownlow and burnt……thats the main reason im not touching him lol.
Swanny will be my first player picked. The guy is a ball magnet and works hard for his posies, the fact that he runs hard means he’s always in or around the contest at stoppages. He’s durable and and hasn’t missed a game in 3 years or something so he’s low risk too, GAJ is likely to miss at least a couple of games and i’ve got a feeling GAJ won’t have as good a year as he has in the past (he may have lost some hunger after finally getting his Brownlow).
People say you’ve gotta have Cox or GAJ in ur side to do any good in DT, well i’m saying you’ve gotta have Swan! Get on him, he’s worth every penny, even at full price.
get on joel selwood. i have a feeling he may outscore GAJ next year. could be the big improver (in premium midfielders) could increase his average by at least 10 points per game.
I’d say Bryce Gibbs is also in that boat as well Luke. I can see both of them improving their average and becoming the two best options in DT.
too expensive and that poor finsih to the season is a big turnoff (though after working so hard all season, that probably is to be expected)
Hey guys
These are Swannies games since his last missed game, including who he played against and whether the magpies won or not, maybe this info is helpful for you.
I’ve got a spreadsheet that collates all this stuff from the net in like seconds so I’ll try and add this every few days to the Card that is up.
Peace
2009 PF Geelong 68 Loss
2009 SF Adelaide 112 Win
2009 QF St Kilda 89 Loss
2009 R22 Western Bulldogs 81 Loss
2009 R21 Sydney 90 Win
2009 R20 Richmond 125 Win
2009 R19 Adelaide 103 Win
2009 R18 Brisbane Lions 122 Win
2009 R17 Carlton 131 Win
2009 R16 Hawthorn 141 Loss
2009 R15 Western Bulldogs 121 Win
2009 R14 Essendon 107 Win
2009 R13 Fremantle 158 Win
2009 R12 Sydney 127 Win
2009 R11 Melbourne 133 Win
2009 R10 Port Adelaide 154 Win
2009 R9 West Coast 158 Win
2009 R8 Carlton 97 Loss
2009 R7 St Kilda 79 Loss
2009 R6 North Melbourne 117 Win
2009 R5 Essendon 141 Loss
2009 R4 Brisbane Lions 79 Win
2009 R3 Geelong 112 Loss
2009 R2 Melbourne 130 Win
2009 R1 Adelaide 115 Loss
2008 SF St Kilda 111 Loss
2008 EF Adelaide 98 Win
2008 R22 Fremantle 72 Loss
2008 R21 Sydney 122 Win
2008 R20 Port Adelaide 82 Win
2008 R19 St Kilda 111 Win
2008 R18 Hawthorn 76 Loss
2008 R17 Essendon 99 Loss
2008 R16 North Melbourne 92 Loss
2008 R15 Adelaide 90 Win
2008 R14 Sydney 130 Win
2008 R13 Western Bulldogs 85 Loss
2008 R12 Carlton 137 Loss
2008 R11 Melbourne 93 Win
2008 R10 West Coast 133 Win
2008 R9 Geelong 123 Win
2008 R8 St Kilda 114 Win
2008 R7 Hawthorn 98 Loss
2008 R6 Essendon 97 Win
2008 R5 North Melbourne 74 Loss
2008 R4 Carlton 109 Loss
2008 R3 Richmond 89 Win
2008 R2 Brisbane Lions 108 Loss
2008 R1 Fremantle 122 Win
2007 PF Geelong 106 Loss
2007 SF West Coast 158 Win
2007 EF Sydney 78 Win
2007 R22 Adelaide 128 Loss
2007 R21 Sydney 97 Win
2007 R20 Melbourne 94 Win
2007 R19 Richmond 62 Loss
2007 R18 Carlton 109 Win
2007 R17 Brisbane Lions 119 Loss
2007 R16 Essendon 52 Win
2007 R15 Geelong 86 Loss
2007 R14 St Kilda 136 Win
2007 R13 Hawthorn 125 Loss
2007 R12 Sydney 65 Win
2007 R11 Melbourne 89 Loss
2007 R10 Fremantle 150 Win
2007 R9 Brisbane Lions 78 Win
2007 R8 Western Bulldogs 76 Loss
2007 R7 Carlton 123 Win
2007 R6 Adelaide 118 Win
2007 R5 Essendon 93 Win
2007 R4 Port Adelaide 109 Loss
2007 R3 Richmond 141 Win
2007 R2 West Coast 99 Loss
2007 R1 North Melbourne 85 Win
2006 EF Western Bulldogs 56 Loss
2006 R22 North Melbourne 98 Win
2006 R21 Carlton 136 Win
2006 R20 Port Adelaide 96 Win
2006 R19 Essendon 141 Loss
2006 R18 Adelaide 127 Loss
2006 R17 Hawthorn 54 Win
2006 R16 West Coast 102 Win
2006 R15 Fremantle 101 Loss
2006 R14 St Kilda 68 Loss
2006 R13 Richmond 84 Loss
yeah not at the start for me I don’t reckon… Scully to him hopefully
Definite No room at the Bunch of… at R1, there will be much better value around – Bit like Jimmy B was for R1 2009!
Your only as good as your last game…
2009 PF Geelong 68 Loss. Fail.
Daft pricks, the lot of you.
The only reason not to have this guy is if you believe he will drop in price (because he will be in your league’s grand final winner’s side, and the overall winners, just not yours, dipshit).
If you believe he will drop in price, post a reason. The only decent one I’ve heard is the inclusion of Ball and increase of action for Beams/SideB, but even these reasons are haphazard guesses, all of which underestimate the fittest man in the comp.
Also, comments like, “I will pick him up 100K cheaper” come from DT-retards. You think Swan will average over 20 points less a game this year? Why? You fucking idiot! The fact is, none of you are threats this year, to your mates or to the car.
Swanny is the man.
With love
A Melbourne supporter.
I’ve locked and loaded Swanny and Ablett into my team. The only problem that I have now is who do i pick as captain LOL It’ll prolly be Swan all year as i sont expect GAJ to play every game…
I’ve found the Swan decision very difficult.
Everyone will expect him to go down, like GAJ last year. With an average of 120 this is quite possible. Think for him to just have one or 2 games under 100 his price will polarise to under 440 (probably hit 460). All the while have a couple of young guns go from 140k to 280k and can pick up Swan for the effective price of $320k costing 1-2 trades. Just have to weigh this up in terms of ur own strategy.
My other negative Swan point is he has been a dominant force for essentially 2 years now being used in a very individual way playing off the interchange making him hard to tag. How many club strategists would have a few ideas how to lock him down? Also, with a bit of a shake up with Fraser going to play a bit on the wing, and Ball assumably taking a spot in the midfield it’s possible they may rest Swan more going back to the 08 strategy.
At the start of the season I pick premiums based on consistency (measured using standard deviation) and Swan’s was 24.14 (lower the better if ya don’t know). This is very low for someone with such a high average, and would pick him in my opening line up before the likes of Sam Mitchell (29.63).
For the price he is this year, I think it is way too much money to risk, I will wait to trade up my rookies not because I doubt he is a gun but just because I would prefer to be safe than sorry when risking >500k. Definately have him by years end.